silversailor
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The foredeck on my 28’ racer/cruiser has a molded dimpled pattern that’s totally ineffective. I want to apply a nonskid product over the existing surface. Suggestions?
Nonskid for foredeck
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No, I bet it's because the boat is 40 years old and the molded dimples are just worn off.
You can repaint with paint with grit added.
You can grind/sand off all the dimples first and then paint + grit
You can use textured paint like Kiwi grip
There is also the heavy and costly Treadmaster and it's copycats
You can roll on thickened gelcoat with a loop roller
You can repaint with paint with grit added.
You can grind/sand off all the dimples first and then paint + grit
You can use textured paint like Kiwi grip
There is also the heavy and costly Treadmaster and it's copycats
You can roll on thickened gelcoat with a loop roller
silversailor
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You are both wrong. I've wiped the non-skid down with acetone to remove any contaminates. No effect. And it's a 2010 (not a 1980 model).
Any other suggestions. Harken tells me that their new non-skid tape will go over that type of surface and adhere. We'll see.
So two guys try to help you (no pics or boat type yet I notice...) and you're gonna be snitty with them? I asked a question "Are you sure.." to which you could have said, "yes, I am, I wiped it down with acetone, so that's not it. Short of the fact that Zonker got the age wrong (and it's not like you said how old in your original post), he then went on to outline just about all of your possible solutions...the newer harken grip tape looks slick, but it does also falls into Zonker's "Treadmaster" bucket, non stick "pad" that you adhere over your existing deck...
SloopJonB
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Lay a teak deck. 
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And screw from bottom like a Lafitte 44 so you don't have to worry about those pesky bungs.Lay a teak deck.
But in all seriousness...Treadmaster is easy to put down and a huge bitch to take off if you ever need to. We did our decks with Kiwigrip and I'm not sure I'd fully recommend it. Difficult get an even texture, easy to miss a bubble disguised as a bump, and hard to clean if you do anything other than a light texture.
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Well I'm surprised a 10 year old boat has such ineffective non-skid. Have you owned it long?
I'd be curious about the make/model too.
Treadmaster is probably too heavy for a racing oriented boat.
Raptordeck might be worth looking into.
The Harken stuff is pretty expensive. $16-12 sq.ft depending on what you format you buy. I would not try to lay 32" wide on a curved foredeck without at least 1 helper. Maybe the 18" wide stuff.
I'd be curious about the make/model too.
Treadmaster is probably too heavy for a racing oriented boat.
Raptordeck might be worth looking into.
The Harken stuff is pretty expensive. $16-12 sq.ft depending on what you format you buy. I would not try to lay 32" wide on a curved foredeck without at least 1 helper. Maybe the 18" wide stuff.
Are you willing to sand, or looking for easy?
Sand? Go 2-part paint and compatible grit
no sand? Kiwi-grip. Clean it, paint it, go sailing. If you've used a roller on a wall you can lay down Kiwi. Give it a week for full cure - here's what they say for prep. Pretty minimal
Old Gel-Coat: Scrub old gel-coat with a stiff scotch pad or stainless wire brush and a good degreasing soap to remove oxidation, dirt and oil. A de-waxing agent is required if the surface has been waxed within 5 years.
Sand? Go 2-part paint and compatible grit
no sand? Kiwi-grip. Clean it, paint it, go sailing. If you've used a roller on a wall you can lay down Kiwi. Give it a week for full cure - here's what they say for prep. Pretty minimal
Old Gel-Coat: Scrub old gel-coat with a stiff scotch pad or stainless wire brush and a good degreasing soap to remove oxidation, dirt and oil. A de-waxing agent is required if the surface has been waxed within 5 years.
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Non skid? Never been discussed before online, anyway what's the best antifoul...?
SloopJonB
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ok, ok what's the best anchor, antifoul and nonskid also whats the best paint
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seriously we've had our fun, I did my non skid with a loop roller and gelcoat; here's the best guide I could find
Elegua
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The fun part having the screws in the teak deck from the bottom is periodically grinding them back after you've sliced open a foot or torn the ass of your shorts. Blood ruins the patina. My cockpit seats slats were done that way.
I've been pretty happy with the Kiwigrip. I have the light grey color over alwgrip. 7 years so far. I haven't had the cleaning issues people talked about...A section or two might need a touch up in a couple of years.
silversailor
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Never intended my earlier response to be "snitty." Sorry guys.
In response to Zonker, she's an Andrews 28, only 4 built, that sat on a lift, outside, in Annapolis for nearly 10 years with no real care given to the deck and only a boom tent.
I had some sheets of SeaDec which I used in the cockpit. Great improvement. I was trying to find a solution less expensive than SeaDec. I'll check the price of Raptor.
I agree that Treadmaster is too heavy.
I was thinking that if I used the Harken tape that I would lay it in strips and not cover the entire non-skid area.
No worries! Andrews 28s are neat boats. All nonskid solutions are compromises. I redid the foredeck and cabin top of my S2 9.1 with Kiwigrip. There is a learning curve to applying it, to get the texture you are after, but there was no issue with grip (there was almost too much ) once it was down. I'd use it again, esp. having learned what I did the first time I put it on. Feel free to pm me if you want a more detailed account of what I did/what I'd do different...
) once it was down. I'd use it again, esp. having learned what I did the first time I put it on. Feel free to pm me if you want a more detailed account of what I did/what I'd do different...
PaulK
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We repainted our deck ('81 J/36 btw) with nonskid particles mixed into the Awlgrip this past summer. Came out evenly and works well to provide sure footing. Read too many stories about Kiwigrip always looking dirty. Nonskid tape and faux teak were too pricey for the coverage we needed.
That's one of the big knocks on Kiwigrip. That said, I never thought mine looked dirty. Maybe it was just me
Maybe the rest of my 9.1 wasn't that new or clean looking so the newer Kiwigriped section looked clean. Maybe it rained a lot in Norfolk VA and keep it clean. But it was not one of the complaints I personally had. YMMV.
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