Not a race boat?

[Ravenswing]

It's a totally home built and designed cruising cat that seems to kick ass. They beat me in the last race I did. I think it's done lots of sea miles, but super light. Wood epoxy!

mmmmmmmm. western red cedar, I trust?

 

[munt]

That cat appeared to move through the water very nicely in the video. Also looks relatively quite comfortable, though maybe a little tougher to human power..?

 

[Russell Brown]

This is their pedal drive system (top photo): http://gougeon32.blogspot.com/2018/08/pedal-drives-on-2018-r2ak-boats.html

 

[MultiThom]

This AM shows the advantage a long mono has over light weight tris going to weather in light breeze against a little current. It points better and can pile on bigger headsails (880 actually lost distance on last tack). Fun to watch remotely. Still applaud Pestou single handing among the leaders, hope he got a few hours rest yesterday. Current shifts in an hour and open water and bigger wind in a few hours.

 

[he b gb]

Perhaps my cookies are still in play?

Tres Equis definitely must be fast to have quickly made up the time they lost doing the rudder repair.
But not sure if your cookies are safe seeing reports of the upcoming strong weather, she sure seems a bit fragile

 

[MultiThom]

Tres Equis definitely must be fast to have quickly made up the time they lost doing the rudder repair.
But not sure if your cookies are safe seeing reports of the upcoming strong weather, she sure seems a bit fragile

Every new boat has teething issues. Beerboat (880) is catching up to whale. I'm wondering what happened to mojo.

 

[he b gb]

I thought they had been in production for some time already?
The two problems they’ve had already seem more like design faults.

 

[MultiThom]

I thought they had been in production for some time already?
The two problems they’ve had already seem more like design faults.

They have built a couple...I was talking about any new boat you get from a factory...stuff wasn't built right. Believe this is more a QC issue than design, but to be fair, I just think Vietnam builders are "cheap and dirty" instead of quality conscious. Doesn't help that Vietnam had a lot of covid deaths. How much construction knowledge and experience did Corsair lose. We don't know.

 

[munt]

Cheap and dirty except for the selling price. No excuse for such poor build quality on a machine that could easily hurt or kill somebody.

 

[Lanikaisailor]

Looks like Tres Eques is in trouble again and Dogsmile Adventures is going in to help.

 

[MultiThom]

Yah, going downwind likely because rudder issue. Must suck rocks

 

[munt]

Multithom, correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be taking delight in the misfortunes of the 880. Is it the prospect of free Oreos?

 

[MultiThom]

Please don't read that antipathy into my comments. I wish nothing but the best to all folks willing to brave the hazards of this event. I do look forward to the post mortem for the failures for mojo and beerboat, though.

 

[SailingTips.Ca]

Please don't read that antipathy into my comments. I wish nothing but the best to all folks willing to brave the hazards of this event. I do look forward to the post mortem for the failures for mojo and beerboat, though.

The post below has some pictures of Mojo’s compromised rudder after hitting a log…

The Call of R2AK: 2023 Edition

Which is why a lot of the offshore French tris, including MOD 70’s have some water ballast low in the central hull, to give it some inertia and grunt in waves upwind.

forums.sailinganarchy.com

 

[munt]

Nothing but the best and looking forward to post mortem... Interesting juxtaposition...

 

[MultiThom]

I thought something would break on mojo due to age and how much racing it has done. But didn't expect the rudder to hit something. I was surprised at how well xxx did. I did profess expectation that a mono would win...I just picked the wrong one. Not sure how anyone can sail a Hobie 33 that slowly.

 

[munt]

Is the 880, in fact, a race boat? Based on its speed I'd say yes, seems like it could have been at the front with the mono. Based on its build quality I'd say no, it's an expensive dumpster fire. Was Multithom's bet on the Hobie 33 correct? Again, we know the boat is capable of doing well, especially downwind but this certainly wasn't their year either. Should we all convert to comfy, high-end 40 foot monohulls with very large crews for "adventure" races? Probly.

 

[MultiThom]

After what happened to xxx I would not accept anything built by corsair (or seawind) in the last 3 years as a gift. This race may be the demise of the company. And no, my bet on the hobie 33 was wrong, but they may still finish, eventually.

 

[SailingTips.Ca]

Is the 880, in fact, a race boat? Based on its speed I'd say yes, seems like it could have been at the front with the mono. Based on its build quality I'd say no, it's an expensive dumpster fire. Was Multithom's bet on the Hobie 33 correct? Again, we know the boat is capable of doing well, especially downwind but this certainly wasn't their year either. Should we all convert to comfy, high-end 40 foot monohulls with very large crews for "adventure" races? Probly.

Yes the 880s performance was respectable had it not been for the falling apart problem!

The Chula Vista (California) boats are also susceptible to forward bulkhead delamination, as experienced by a few (e.g. Pestou, Pturbodactyl) last year, but those are also 20 year old boats that lived very hard lives beforehand. A brand new boat falling apart is quite another matter!

And having owned and raced both, I can attest to a larger (e.g. 40') mono being easier to sail at pace than a smaller tri in the mixed conditions around Vancouver Island, especially on longer races where everybody is sleep-deprived.

You can be half-asleep and still sail that mono at 90% of its potential, not so much with the tri.

 

[Russell Brown]

Pestou and Pturbodactyl both broke from contact with logs. The 880 seemed to not be pointing well at the start. I wonder what the foils are like?

The race has been something this year. The R2AK thread on SA has been the best source of news I've found.