Now that Musk owns Twitter

Olsonist

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I can't imagine anyone would question the validity of that count.

Is Musk an officer of the company? Yes, he owns it but is he an officer? If he isn't, then does he have the legal responsibilities that being one entails? Because otherwise, it seems that he can say what he wants about his toy, true or not true.

Suppose that Musk claims that daily Tweeting can cure diaper rash. @Dog 2.0 has diaper rash and has been searching for a cure that doesn't require bathing. He hears that his boi boi has claimed Tweeting would cure his ailment and then starts Tweeting. However his rashes persist.

Does Musk, as owner but not officer, have legal liability here any more than if I, as internet nobody, told @Dog 2.0, as credulous fool, that Tweeting can cure his persistent diaper rash?
 

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Is Musk an officer of the company? Yes, he owns it but is he an officer? If he isn't, then does he have the legal responsibilities that being one entails? Because otherwise, it seems that he can say what he wants about his toy, true or not true.

Suppose that Musk claims that daily Tweeting can cure diaper rash. @Dog 2.0 has diaper rash and has been searching for a cure that doesn't require bathing. He hears that his boi boi has claimed Tweeting would cure his ailment and then starts Tweeting. However his rashes persist.

Does Musk, as owner but not officer, have legal liability here any more than if I, as internet nobody, told @Dog 2.0, as credulous fool, that Tweeting can cure his persistent diaper rash?
All good questions.

Mainly, I believe you may be onto the source of Dog Deux's butthurt.
 

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Twitter is a private company, so the first amendment did not, does not and (as long as it remains private) will not apply. If the owner wants to allow people like Dog or Nailing Malarkey or their bullshitting brethren to post bullshit that does not get a disclaimer, that is the owner’s choice. I don’t know anyone who is up at arms about that. That is our system. Congress shall make no law Constraining bullshitters, or constraining normal people who call out the bullshit.

Just like SA. The moderator doesn’t let goobers sling bullshit about calling people pedophiles. Not a first amendment issue. It’s a FAFO issue.
 

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Is Musk an officer of the company? Yes, he owns it but is he an officer? If he isn't, then does he have the legal responsibilities that being one entails? Because otherwise, it seems that he can say what he wants about his toy, true or not true.
Since he fired the Board and named himself CEO, there has to be a President somewhere, so he must be it too. And therefore he's a legal officer of the Company, but being the President of the Company brings many more legal obligations. I really hope his lawyers are up to the job.
 

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End of story.

Awesome. I hope you at least got some options. I still like the company even if I don't like Musk (who was not a founder except maybe to @Dog 2.0).

Buck's is all about location (Woodside, Benchmark is even there) because it isn't about the food. The food is pretty pedestrian. Cãnada Road going up Old La Honda to Skyline and then Alice's is a classic loop ride. Going to Alice's, grunt engineer that I am, is maybe a little more my jam, as is Rossatti's.
 

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Since he fired the Board and named himself CEO, there has to be a President somewhere, so he must be it too. And therefore he's a legal officer of the Company, but being the President of the Company brings many more legal obligations. I really hope his lawyers are up to the job.

My bad. There is a legal filing that says he is the sole member of the board.

Mr. Musk became the sole director of Twitter​

 

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I am wondering what the magic number is - as in "for how many companies can one person serve as CEO?"

By my count, Musk is currently at 3 - Tesla, SpaceX, and Twitter. There is a talk of a phone being developed.
 

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I am wondering what the magic number is - as in "for how many companies can one person serve as CEO?"

By my count, Musk is currently at 3 - Tesla, SpaceX, and Twitter. There is a talk of a phone being developed.
Add The Boring Company which is developing (ha!) the Hyperloop. And I think there's one more.
 

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Everyone's worst fears of Twitter being turned into a far-right mouthpiece are coming true. Sorry for the bizarre formatting, it just wasn't cooperating.


Elon Musk claims to be “fighting for free speech in America” but the social network’s new owner appears to be overseeing a purge of left-wing activists from the platform.Several prominent antifascist organizers and journalists have had their accounts suspended in the past week, after right-wing operatives appealed directly to Musk to ban them and far-right internet trolls flooded Twitter’s complaints system with false reports about terms of service violations.As the Los Angeles City Councilmember Mike Bonin noted on Twitter, the suspended users include Chad Loder, an antifascist researcher whose open-source investigation of the U.S. Capitol riot led to the identification and arrest of a masked Proud Boy who attacked police officers. The account of video journalist Vishal Pratap Singh, who reports on far-right protests in Southern California, has also been suspended.

Among the other prominent accounts suspended were the Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club, an antifascist group that provides armed security for LGBTQ+ events in North Texas, and CrimethInc, an anarchist collective that has published and distributed anarchist and anti-authoritarian zines, books, posters, and podcasts since the mid-1990s.

All four accounts had been singled out for criticism by Andy Ngo, a far-right writer whose conspiratorial, error-riddled reporting on left-wing protests and social movements fuels the mass delusion that a handful of small antifascist groups are part of an imaginary shadow army called “antifa.” In a public exchange on Twitter on Friday, Musk invited Ngo to report “Antifa accounts” that should be suspended directly to him.








​“Andy Ngo’s bizarre vision of ‘antifa’ seems to be the metric used to delete the accounts of journalists and publications, most of which engaged in verifiably good journalism and done so completely above board and TOS observant ways,” Shane Burley, editor of the anthology “¡No Pasarán!: Antifascist Dispatches From a World in Crisis,” observed on Twitter. “Paranoid delusions about antifa are driving it.”
As The Intercept reported last year, Ngo had previously tried and failed to have Loder suspended from Twitter, and also joined a botched attempt to have a court order the researcher to stop tweeting about one of the Proud Boys who took part in the Capitol riot.
In a phone interview on Monday, Loder, a tech company founder and cybersecurity expert, told The Intercept that their @chadloder account was initially suspended last week for about 90 minutes after Musk had replied to Ngo on Twitter. After briefly regaining access to the account, Loder was suspended again and accused by Twitter of having used another account to evade the ban.
Loder said that they do have access to another dormant account, @masksfordocs — which was set up in early 2020 as part of an effort by a group of activists to donate N95 masks to doctors during the first months of the Covid-19 pandemic — but had not used it for ban evasion. (Ngo had drawn attention to the @masksfordocs account on Twitter, describing it as Loder’s “alt.”)
“What I believe happened is that I and other accounts have been mass reported for the last few weeks by a dedicated group of far-right extremists who want to erase archived evidence of their past misdeeds and to neutralize our ability to expose them in the future,” Loder said. “What I suspect happened is that Twitter’s automatic systems flagged my account for some reason and no human being is reviewing these.”

Since Loder’s account was on a list being passed around by right-wing activists as part of a coordinated campaign to mass-report fabricated violations by left-wing Twitter users, it could have been suspended as a result of that activity. Loder shared screenshots with The Intercept showing that Telegram channels with tens of thousands of followers, including QAnon adherents and Proud Boys, had coordinated a spate of complaints about Loder’s tweets and celebrated Loder’s suspension.
Although Twitter’s Trust and Safety team was made aware of the organized false-reporting campaign against Loder earlier this month — and such coordinated bulk reporting and false-flagging of accounts are violations of Twitter’s pre-Musk policy against “platform manipulation” — that team was subsequently depleted by mass resignations on November 17.
 

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Awesome. I hope you at least got some options. I still like the company even if I don't like Musk (who was not a founder except maybe to @Dog 2.0).

Buck's is all about location (Woodside, Benchmark is even there) because it isn't about the food. The food is pretty pedestrian. Cãnada Road going up Old La Honda to Skyline and then Alice's is a classic loop ride. Going to Alice's, grunt engineer that I am, is maybe a little more my jam, as is Rossatti's.
Thanks. Yes I got options, but they were washed out when Elon took control.

Bucks was good in the day. It faded badly post Covid when Jamis and Margaret retired up the hill. And yes, 84 is heaps of fun up to Alice's (also not a shadow of its former self).

The Alpine Inn (aka Zot's) hasn't changed much. Great summer lunch spot outside by the creek.
 

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Thanks. Yes I got options, but they were washed out when Elon took control.

Bucks was good in the day. It faded badly post Covid when Jamis and Margaret retired up the hill. And yes, 84 is heaps of fun up to Alice's (also not a shadow of its former self).

The Alpine Inn (aka Zot's) hasn't changed much. Great summer lunch spot outside by the creek.

Washout rounds and preference cliffs have seriously eroded the Silicon Valley social contract. Why would anyone eat ramen if they're only going to get fucked by the VCs in the end in the end? Steve Blank gets into this.

Rossatti's was recapitalized by people in the neighborhood. People in Los Altos have more money than God and most of them have less creativity than an AOL CD collector. But a few of them banded together, some of it's on the About page, to update it and reopen it because they wanted a Rossatti's in the neighborhood.

I still like Alice's because of the location.
 

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Our free speech expert, @Dog 2.0, will be so pleased because nothing says freedom quite like child sex abuse.
 

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