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Ishmael

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Or maybe you won't be able to get it in Europe.

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Ishmael

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And I note that coverage of Ukraine has gone to zero, despite my following of many accounts. This is not free speech, this is Big Elon.
 

Olsonist

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I believe most of the early customers are planning to use them from hubs where the truck will return each day. I can see that making sense.

If battery semis were going to be a thing then you'd think that hybrid semis would already be a thing and they aren't. They've been built but they haven't really caught on because they don't really solve a problem. They were built and nobody came.

Diesel electric locomotives have been around for forever but they solve the massive amount of torque needed to start moving the train problem. Torque is the selling point of the Cyber Truck and the Lightning. Semis on the other hand are designed around the efficiency of long haul routes on a freeways.

There may be a niche for battery semis but it will be short haul situations. It may not even look anything like a semi.

I'm not a believer in the Tesla semi and I first saw it like five years ago. Always happy to be wrong but I'm just not a believer.
 

Lark

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If battery semis were going to be a thing then you'd think that hybrid semis would already be a thing and they aren't. They've been built but they haven't really caught on because they don't really solve a problem. They were built and nobody came.

Diesel electric locomotives have been around for forever but they solve the massive amount of torque needed to start moving the train problem. Torque is the selling point of the Cyber Truck and the Lightning. Semis on the other hand are designed around the efficiency of long haul routes on a freeways.

There may be a niche for battery semis but it will be short haul situations. It may not even look anything like a semi.

I'm not a believer in the Tesla semi and I first saw it like five years ago. Always happy to be wrong but I'm just not a believer.
I understand total rig weight is a problem. The tractor and batteries are heavier then a diesel tractor, and won’t get lighter as fuel is burned off. Cattle haulers would plan their routes so the cattle would piss and belch off some weight and the tractor burn some fuel before the first weigh station, so they could add another animal. A heavier truck is ok for light loads, but those loads don’t need torque. I think urban stop and go traffic is the primary niche, and yard trucks. They are probably good for Atlanta, Boston and Chicago traffic jams. No clutch alone is an advantage in stop and go.
 

Lark

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What happens if the app is no longer offered on Apple and Google? You don't get app updates, or what?
Every time the iPhone or iPad updates it’s operating system the app will stop working. I’ve had that problem with security camera and database remote access apps.
 

MauiPunter

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I really think they should have focused on the bottom-up. Start with delivery trucks like FedEx and UPS and the postal service. Put out a work van like the Ford Transit that all the contractors use. Then bump up to the short-haul around-town delivery trucks that deliver smaller loads to local stores. School busses. City busses.

Tackling these uses would also have a great impact on greenhouse gasses than 18-wheeler trucks. Plus the local transport doesn't need 24/7 use. They can charge at night when not being used. School buses could charge mid-day between pick up and drop off and overnight.
 

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