NY Court of Appeals rules in favor of BMW Oracle

DC_US55

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Since CNEV has failed to show that at the time it

submitted its Notice of Challenge it was a "[c]lub fulfilling all

the conditions required by" the Deed of Gift, it does not qualify

as the Challenger of Record for the 33rd America's Cup

competition and Supreme Court was correct in declaring GGYC to be

the valid Challenger of Record.

It has been posited that the right to act as trustee of

the America's Cup should be decided on the water and not in a

courtroom. We wholeheartedly agree. It falls now to SNG and

GGYC to work together to maintain this noble sailing tradition as

"a perpetual Challenge Cup for friendly competition between

foreign countries" (Deed of Gift, October 24, 1887, ¶ 3).

LOL....They slapped BO in the ruling.

So does this mean Cahn's dates are now valid?!?

 
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It would seem we're in for a DoG Cat fight if Ernesto keeps his word...

Bad news for all the people who worked in the 32nd AC but good news for the sport, I guess.

What I'm sure of is that I wouldn't miss that race for anything in the world.

 

Colomba

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REVENGE COMES ON THE FORM OF THE THREE HULLS OF DEATH; BRING IT ON! WHEN THE GUN GOES OF THE BULLSHIT STOPS!

 

PeterHuston

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When will ACM start giving refunds to the Challengers who paid the entry fee?

Does Valencia still pony up the cash for the "pre-regattas"?

 

WetHog

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Ok now what? Hopefully Uncle Larry and EB will take the time to settle their differences and do whats right for the Cup and all those that love it. I'm still hopefull. :p

WetHog :ph34r:

 

learningcurve

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If I read the doc right, no orders or rememdies other than GGYC is now CoR.

Right?

So it is up to SNG and GGYC to negotiate MC event or hammer out plans for DoG match?

 

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Wow.

What does this mean:

Order reversed, with costs, and orders of Supreme Court, New York County, reinstated.

Does it go back to the SC for the final settle order terms? In the original orders, the dates have since passed.

 
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phomchick

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It would seem we're in for a DoG Cat fight if Ernesto keeps his word...
Bad news for all the people who worked in the 32nd AC but good news for the sport, I guess.

What I'm sure of is that I wouldn't miss that race for anything in the world.
First, the title of this thread should be:

NY Court of Appeals rules in favor of GGYC

Second, SNG and GGYC can agree to have the DoG match this year. September would be nice. That would still potentially allow a MC event race in 2011.

 
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WetHog

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Regardless of which side won the court ruling, is this it as far as court bullshitting goes? Or is one side or the other gonna find a new legal avenue? I sure hope not.

Oh and I have zero time or patience to read the actual ruling itself. Can someone post the cliff's notes version in this thread? Sure GGYC won, but maybe a little more detail than that.

WetHog :ph34r:

 

Mash

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Regardless of which side won the court ruling, is this it as far as court bullshitting goes? Or is one side or the other gonna find a new legal avenue? I sure hope not.
Oh and I have zero time or patience to read the actual ruling itself. Can someone post the cliff's notes version in this thread? Sure GGYC won, but maybe a little more detail than that.

WetHog :ph34r:
Not really

"We have read the DoG, 'having' means the yacht club must already have had an 'annual' regatta before he can be a challenger of record, CEV does not comply, GGYC is the legitimate challenger, now go figure the rest out on the water, bye"

M - pretty short ruling

 

Stingray

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Regardless of which side won the court ruling, is this it as far as court bullshitting goes? Or is one side or the other gonna find a new legal avenue? I sure hope not.
Oh and I have zero time or patience to read the actual ruling itself. Can someone post the cliff's notes version in this thread? Sure GGYC won, but maybe a little more detail than that.

WetHog :ph34r:
Try it. You will find it surprisingly simple.

1 ) CNEV was not eligible to be CoR based on the obvious tense of the the particple 'having' in context (and by linking paragraphs 4 and 10 in the Deed as Maureen M did) and

2 ) GGYC, being the next in line Challenge filed, is declared the Challenger. Cahn was right.

They ruled both key points, unanimously. It is a slam dunk!

 
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phomchick

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There are no details. The Court of Appeals said that the Supreme Court was correct and the Appeals Division was not. "Having for its annual regatta" is not ambiguous and CNEV is not a qualified challenger because they had not held a regatta on the sea or arm of the sea before having their challenge accepted by SNG.

They said nothing about dates or tolling of orders going forward. It is up to SNG and GGYC to work that out on their own.

 
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