Oh Looky - NY Sheriffs Association responds to Cuomo's gun laws.

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The link above is to the opinion that is being challenged.

SCOTUS Blog coverage here of the Supreme Court case.

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Nov 08 2018


Brief of City of New York, et al. in opposition not accepted for filing. (November 09, 2018) (Corrected version submitted November 9, 2018).




Nov 08 2018


Brief of respondents City of New York, et al. in opposition filed.(11/14/2018)




Nov 28 2018


DISTRIBUTED for Conference of 1/4/2019.




Nov 28 2018


Reply of petitioners New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc., et al. filed. (Distributed)
Cert granted.

Justices to review New York gun rights case

 

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Hey dickhead this is another gun thread that you bumped from over an month ago so you could talk about dogballs. You are a sick sick person.

Even worse you a quoting your self from over a year ago.

SAD!

 
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Hey dickhead this is another gun thread that you bumped from over an month ago so you could talk about dogballs. You are a sick sick person.

SAD!
It's very upsetting when the Supreme Court agrees to hear a case about TeamD gun bans and confiscation programs. Danger to the Sacred Prohibition! And heretics coming out of the woodwork to say bad things!

 

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It's very upsetting when the Supreme Court agrees to hear a case about TeamD gun bans and confiscation programs. Danger to the Sacred Prohibition! And heretics coming out of the woodwork to say bad things!
No one here gives a shit except BPM, short Jeff and Jocelyn. 

 
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If there was a Gun Anarchy, we wouldn't see some people at all in the sane threads.
Now that we know that bit of wisdom, what do we do with it?

From the link I posted:

The request for review came from the New York State Pistol and Rifle Association and a group of gun owners who live in the city. They were challenging the city’s ban on transferring even licensed, unloaded guns anywhere outside the city limits – including to a weekend home or shooting range for target practice – restrictions they describe as “draconian.”
I know you're not allowed to have ordinary squirrel shooters like my wife owns up in the frozen north. Like Aussies, your government simply can't trust you with them.

If you do possess an evil gun, are you allowed to take it outside the city where you live? Because if so, your gun laws are more permissive (meaning more insane) than ours.

 
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The Cert Petition
 

The question presented is:

Whether the City’s ban on transporting a licensed, locked, and unloaded handgun to a home or shooting range outside city limits is consistent with the Second Amendment, the Commerce Clause, and the constitutional right to travel.
Not presented to the court, but still worth wondering about: why are hoplophobes so darn fearful that they can't tolerate a licensed, locked, and unloaded gun being carried outside city limits?

 

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Hey dickhead this is another gun thread that you bumped from over an month ago so you could talk about dogballs. You are a sick sick person.

Even worse you a quoting your self from over a year ago.

SAD!
This is the third time in the modern era that the Supreme Court has agreed to hear a second amendment case.

The case is about the NY laws that are the topic of this thread.

I can't help it that no one else is interested in how our rights fare in the courts. If someone else had brought up the case, I would have quoted him.

TeamD gun bans and confiscation programs affect the lives of gun owners and so do Supreme Court decisions on the topic.

 

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Much wailing and gnashing of teeth over at Slate in fear of the demise of the dream of indoor militias.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/supreme-court-new-york-gun-case-heller.html

...on Tuesday, the court agreed to review a New York City law that limits gun owners’ ability to transport their guns outside the home. And it appears quite likely that the new conservative majority will, for the very first time, extend the Second Amendment beyond the front door and out into the streets, unleashing lower courts to strike down long-standing restrictions on the public carrying of firearms.

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The case thus marks an effort to inch the Supreme Court toward establishing a right to public carry without forcing the justices to tear down hundreds of laws in a single, sweeping ruling. For a decade, gun advocates have been stymied by the language in Heller and McDonald expressly limiting the Second Amendment to firearms “in the home.” The conservative justices, however, will probably use New York State Rifle to blur that line. If Americans have a constitutional right to take their guns to and from a firing range of their choice, after all, why shouldn’t they be allowed to transport them while traveling elsewhere? If the Constitution safeguards their ability to bring a firearm to and from their second home, why shouldn’t it also protect their right to carry a gun while running errands or visiting friends?

There are good answers to these questions....
I can think of a couple:

1. Forcing gun owners to leave their guns in the city punishes them for voting wrong.

2. Delusional hoplophobes believe such interference with target shooters has something to do with crime.

3. It's gun control ALL gun control is common sense gun control by definition. Duh. (The duh is important there.)

 

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The Cert Petition
 

The question presented is:

Whether the City’s ban on transporting a licensed, locked, and unloaded handgun to a home or shooting range outside city limits is consistent with the Second Amendment, the Commerce Clause, and the constitutional right to travel.
I wondered what a local NY'er might think about the common sense of mandating that guns be left at home when leaving city limits.
 

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Instead of fighting to save American lives, politicians bend over backwards to protect the billionaire-backed gun lobby and propose measures that would actually increase gun sales, such as the incredulous proposal to arm teachers.
 

Alexandria knows that it doesn’t have to be this way. Even in the United States, cities and states with strong gun laws have managed to cut gun violence significantly without running afoul of the Second Amendment. Thanks in part to New York City’s tough gun laws, gun crimes here are at historic lows. But New York – and the rest of the country – has the potential to be much safer. Alexandria believes that supporting common-sense gun legislation is necessary for any politician who claims to care about the lives of constituents. She understands that gun control can save lives and make communities and schools safer.
Oh. Not quite how I use "incredulous" but, it's a tough law that makes us safer without running afoul of the second amendment. Common sense, in other words, just like any gun control.

 
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4 posts in a row talking to yourself about dogballs.

Your mental health is rapidly deteriorating.

Red Flag?

 

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4 posts in a row talking to yourself about dogballs.

Your mental health is rapidly deteriorating.

Red Flag?
It is weird that we don't have any New Yorkers who wish to speak up for their common sense gun control laws in light of my obviously insane attack.

Frenchie? Isn't Brooklyn part of the city?

And Sean? Sag Harbor is Lon Gisland, right?

hermetic? You're from around there too, right?

My prediction: during oral arguments, at least one Justice, probably Roberts, will make the whole room laugh at your gun control laws. That's how much common sense they really make.

 
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My prediction: during oral arguments, at least one Justice, probably Roberts, will make the whole room laugh at your gun control laws. That's how much common sense they really make.
Fair warning, FakeNewb: there's a pretty good chance I'll return to this thread to discuss the oral arguments when they occur. Try not to be too triggered.

 

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There's discussion of when the Supreme Court will hear the NYSRPA case. It will be April or October, most likely.

The timing is considered relevant because of Justice Ginsburg's health. Some gun control supporters seem to want her involved.

I think they should be careful what they wish for. She's not stupid at all and won't buy the stupid argument being made. When an old lady who knows she's dying makes the room laugh at you, it's likely to be harsh.

 

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It is weird that we don't have any New Yorkers who wish to speak up for their common sense gun control laws in light of my obviously insane attack.

Frenchie? Isn't Brooklyn part of the city?

And Sean? Sag Harbor is Lon Gisland, right?

hermetic? You're from around there too, right?

My prediction: during oral arguments, at least one Justice, probably Roberts, will make the whole room laugh at your gun control laws. That's how much common sense they really make.
i don't have any guns registered in new york

 

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i don't have any guns registered in new york
And I don't have any land along the US/Mexican border but am still interested in how the law treats those who do.

Lots of men are interested in the subject of abortion for some reason.

Whether you're directly affected by the actions of your state government or not,
 

The question presented is:

Whether the City’s ban on transporting a licensed, locked, and unloaded handgun to a home or shooting range outside city limits is consistent with the Second Amendment, the Commerce Clause, and the constitutional right to travel.
That's not an interesting question to you?

OK, it is to the Supreme Court and to me.

 

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I kinds stopped being real interested in stupid ny laws a couple decades ago.  I pay property taxes there, but am trying to avoid the city like the plaque

the "transport" law is one of those stupid ones

 

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I kinds stopped being real interested in stupid ny laws a couple decades ago.  I pay property taxes there, but am trying to avoid the city like the plaque

the "transport" law is one of those stupid ones
Well, thanks for your thoughts. Not exactly helpful in my quest for a NY'er with whom to discuss the common sense transport laws.

(They're gun laws, so "common sense" by definition.)

I'll keep looking

 
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