Older well known IOR Boats


San Juan Is
Sorry to return to my older post, but we have slowly uncovered more information about Karma, the blue Peterson 37 I asked about a bit ago.

We have since found that unlike most Doug Peterson 37s, she was built in Chita Japan, not from Wiggers in Ontario, Canada. Hull #2, originally launched as Sunjammer out of Southern California. There is a document of Doug Peterson accomplishments where Sunjammer is mentioned in a Long Beach to Ensenada race in 1982 I think. While we have been unable to find pictures of Sunjammer, someone let us know Sunjammer was had a burgundy hull with one of those very early 80s strips from the stern. Under the blue paint near the rudder there is a scratch where we can see some yellow so maybe that was part of it?

Whatever the case, I wonder if anyone here has any pictures of Sunjammer before she went to the PNW. I am not sure yet when the name changed and when the paint job was done.



Western LIS
On 1/19/2022 at 4:34 PM, Matagi said:

Did we already have this gem in full? If so, it must have slipped me.

Anyway, it has everything:

  • Posh and noble skippers in white captain's hat: check.
  • Funky music: check.
  • Commentary that is part cringeworthy, part makes you long for simpler times: check.
  • IOR yachts: oh yes! double check.
  • Too tight dresses: hell yes!  


What a gawd awful video. This was from 1975. Had to wade through 23 minutes before finding something worth commenting on. Inca may have gotten through that gap but she wasn't the first. That honor went to Carina. Onboard there was some uncertainty about going through the gap since it appeared to be two choices. But since she was leading the fleet and going out and around would have meant sailing into stronger adverse current, the decision was made to pick one. Once successfully through, other boats followed but as the commentator said two boats tried simultaneously and got wedged in the gap. There's a picture somewhere of it - both boat flying chutes but going nowhere. Turns out the other gap wasn't navigable so now the rest of the fleet had to sail out and around meaning longer distance and more current against them. Meanwhile Carina turned her advantage into a humongous lead. Her reward? Time limit expired (or whatever it was called in those days).

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L'Esprit d'équipe



Super Anarchist
Bay Area, CA
L'Esprit de l'équipe, Lionel Péan's Whitbread Race winner from 1985. Sponsored by Honeywell Bull, a recent amalgam of two large European tech companies, and named to provide a spirit of team cohesiveness after the merger.

Pictures of the boat and crew were all over the offices of both companies, in the new dark blue and green livery.

There was no mention of the companies' names on the boat until the last two legs when it appeared they might have a winner. So HB logos and names sprouted.

This is an object lesson in sponsorship objectives.


1974 Thomas one ton. Made the UK team for the world title and did OK but not brilliantly. This is just going on memory from reading my collection of old mags.


New member
Impromptu brings back nice memories of '77 and the Souter yard.

While we felt it "just normal" at the time, with some hindsight the output of IOR boats at the time was just incredible.

We had (oops! the owner had) a boat built at Souter that year I can't remember exactly all the boats in build but there were certainly, Liz of Hanko 40', ours 33' and Impromptu 40'.

I am not too sure but I believe Knockout the 40' for Max Aitken might have been built the previous autumn and winter.

The time frames were also incredible: we had in those days the Proctor design seminar at Guy Fawkes day, in the hotel corridors owners and designers were still finalizing designs for Summer 77, this was November 76 !

Comment Souter a-t-il pu, dans ces bâtiments à l'allure "de fortune", construire, installer et mettre en service toutes ces différentes machines de course en l'espace de quelques mois ?

Nous avons été mis à l'eau mi-juin, Impromptu était après nous venant de passer 10 semaines du lofting à la navigation !

Pendant ce temps là, deux 44' Holland avaient été lancés à Joyce Marine, un à Martland (Morning-Cloud) un à Lallows (Brother Cup) 46' ?

L'apogée de l'IOR vivait vraiment sur la voie rapide !

Je n'oublierai jamais George Squibb chez Souter, calme et posé, prenant note dans son petit bureau des pénibles détails de dernière minute suggérés par les équipages et les ajustant entre les essais en mer (j'aurais aimé ne pas avoir demandé d'avoir les torails là-bas ;) )

Que tous ces bateaux gagnent quelques jours après leur lancement montre que non seulement ils ont construit vite mais aussi bien !

Ils y étaient habitués : deux 47 pieds pour l'été 74, les sisterships Holland pour l'été 79.

Des gens formidables et une grande cour avec une atmosphère fantastique
Toutes ces histoires sont incroyables !!!
Et certaine fois, elles ne s'arrête pas...
Je sais où est Impromptu !!
Si cela vous intéresse chère grenouille de mauvaise humeur !?