Older well known IOR Boats

[Couta]

Dacron laminated mylar!! I got hold of some of the first stuff put out by North - a jib with a red tinted laminate one side and green on the other...hey, we were kids having fun with a sponsored product! It fell to bits in the first up-range breeze...good toimes!!

 

[soling2003]

Zen, I remember those garbage bags well.  There was a time that we thought the "tempered" ( I forget what it was called) Dacron was a big thing, especially the ones you got us for the Dragon.  But then I also had some cross cut genoas......

 

[soling2003]

This is what happens to those mylar/Kevlar sails when they get older.  It was probably about 8 years old when it ripped right up the seams, as you can see.  Got it patched and sewn back together for use for at least another year of racing before it got replaced and made in to a sun tarp.  Hey, I was just a poor firefighter. We couldn't afford to replace sails every year like some of the others in our fleet.

 

[LB 15]

there was talk of banning Kevlar at one point.  The cool shirt to have said "Save the Kevlars" with an endangered Kevlar dinosaur pic in the back.  Don't remember who made them 

There was a kevlar ban in about 84. We spent a season sailing around with dacron sails whilst our brand new banned Fraser kevlar headsails were rolled around PVC pipe in the garage.

 

[Robin]

Around 1980 owned a Cal3-30 inventory was all Dacron or nylon.  Mylar laminate sails were appearing on other boats.  One race day during pre start maneuvering my  foredeck at the mast during a tack pulls out a big sheet of Saran wrap and shakes and snaps it yelling "Mylar" to the fleet.  He got me laughing so hard we were late for the start.

Robin

 

[Go Left]

The first time I heard that was the AC trials down under in the 90's IIRC. The story said they were non-competitive after 50 tacks.

I remember thinking that I sometimes tacked that often on a summer weekend.

First sailed with a kevlar #3 in the BBS in '79 or '81.  The shock loads transferred to the deck gear were so significantly higher that the turning blocks tore off the deck.  

We were told by the sailmaker then that the 3 had a life of 50 tacks.  Which meant it was essentially built to be a throw away after that regatta.  

Banning Kevlar....The alternate proposal was to simply weigh the owner's wallets at check in.

 

[2savage]

I raced on the Ron Holland one ton 'Silver Apple' back in the late '70's.  She was racing out of the Royal Yorkshire YC but spent summer moored off Cowes.  A great boat to windward but a PIG downwind, with a rudder too small  and need of a tiller extension for leverage that 'swept the deck' as two drivers tried to stave off the inevitable death role.  UGHHH!

Ironically the owner at the time was called Guy Shackles.  You can't make this stuff up.

 

[billy backstay]

Ironically the owner at the time was called Guy Shackles.  You can't make this stuff up.

Ironically, the Urologist who performed my vasectomy many years ago was named Richard (Dick) Herter; and my Dentist of 35+ years is Ernest Reamer.  Also had a client named Dick Hertz, when I had a Real Estate Brokerage.  Honest to God!!

 

[2savage]

I owned a Ron Holland 1/2 tonner back in 1987 called Rascal.  Anyone remember the 'blooper'?  I had one and remember how it balanced the downwind performance to eliminate the death roll tendancy.      DDW every time.       Polars?  Polars?  We don't need no stinckin' Polars!!!

 

[soling2003]

Still have one on the Peterson 37.  Years ago PHRF penalized it 5 sec./mile.  But we still used it on the mull 3/4 T in the early 80's when racing PHRF.  Not sure what the NW PHRF rules say now, but I think they are forbidden.

the old saying was, put it up and gain a half knot, take it down and gain a half knot.

 

[12 metre]

I owned a Ron Holland 1/2 tonner back in 1987 called Rascal.  Anyone remember the 'blooper'?  I had one and remember how it balanced the downwind performance to eliminate the death roll tendancy.      DDW every time.       Polars?  Polars?  We don't need no stinckin' Polars!!!

Besides control, in certain circumstances a Blooper helped with speed.  One of those circumstances was the typical run down Juan de Fuca Strait coming home during Swiftsure.  Not quite DDW, but a very broad reach.  The year we won our IOR Div and 3rd overall (back in the days of a fleet of over 300) a Peterson 35 sistership with their blooper up had been hunting us down for several hours when we finally hoisted our borrowed blooper.  That put an end to that and we slowly started pulling away again.

 

[SloopJonB]

Ironically, the Urologist who performed my vasectomy many years ago was named Richard (Dick) Herter; and my Dentist of 35+ years is Ernest Reamer.  Also had a client named Dick Hertz, when I had a Real Estate Brokerage.  Honest to God!!

There's a doctor named A. Harmer at a nearby clinic.

Had a customer once named Harley Death, also a couple - she was named Blower and he was named Jolly.

The all time best, never to be beaten, ironic name though is Cardinal Sin, the Archbishop of Manila.

 

[Great White]

Still have one on the Peterson 37.  Years ago PHRF penalized it 5 sec./mile.  But we still used it on the mull 3/4 T in the early 80's when racing PHRF.  Not sure what the NW PHRF rules say now, but I think they are forbidden.

the old saying was, put it up and gain a half knot, take it down and gain a half knot.

Not banned and the adjustment is -3 secs/mile. Probably would not pay on most of our races, but maybe could be beneficial for races with a long run like Swiftsure.

 

[soling2003]

Go left, was that the original Glory?  I remember our first sail on her on the lake.  It wasn't blowing that hard, pulled a halyard block or so right apart.  Good thing no one was standing too close to them at the time.

 

[Go Left]

Go left, was that the original Glory?  I remember our first sail on her on the lake.  It wasn't blowing that hard, pulled a halyard block or so right apart.  Good thing no one was standing too close to them at the time.

Yep.   (But then didn't the owner occasionally buy one block at retail and have a local machine shop knock off a few more?)

Days of 1 1/4" double-braid dacron to wire jib sheets.  Death defying rigging.  

 

[2savage]

Besides control, in certain circumstances a Blooper helped with speed.  One of those circumstances was the typical run down Juan de Fuca Strait coming home during Swiftsure.  Not quite DDW, but a very broad reach.  The year we won our IOR Div and 3rd overall (back in the days of a fleet of over 300) a Peterson 35 sistership with their blooper up had been hunting us down for several hours when we finally hoisted our borrowed blooper.  That put an end to that and we slowly started pulling away again.

Agreed, but we were doing Long Island Sound stuff like the Greenwich Cup, Larchmont race week etc.  Back then it was Government bouys, not W/L like today, so rare to get DDW legs.  Add to that the shorter legs and I question my sanity.   That said, it was fun, especially when the halyard is let out and the damn sail is waaaay away from the boat

 

[Last Post]

Yep.   (But then didn't the owner occasionally buy one block at retail and have a local machine shop knock off a few more?)

Days of 1 1/4" double-braid dacron to wire jib sheets.  Death defying rigging.  

Remembering meathooks with blood everywhere, every week!

 

[soling2003]

And wire guys too. 

Go Left, I don't remember that part, but he might have.  But I will never forget the rudder failure a few days out on Vic Maui.  I also remember cleaning the bottom with the boat moored at his house, and the closer I got to the prop shaft, the more I tingling I got in my hands.  Fun times.  but the competition and number of boats was great!

 

[Laker]

The hand surgeon at my wife's hospital is Dr. Groper.

 

[Earl Boebert]

My son's orthopedic surgeon was Dr. Drill.

Cheers,

Earl