On The Water, But....
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racing ron
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Bought myself a Rampart 48 last year - famous line of English built boats - works as a great mother ship and good for spectating.
I gotta echo these sentiments.
My old man, now 71, got a lobster boat to tool around on. Used it about 10 times in 5 years. Always missed sailing, so he sold the powerboat and got a sailboat again and could not be happier. He has used it more times in the past month than he used the stinker in 5 years.
Many other examples in our club of guys who bought trawlers or lobster boats and got rid of them in a few years so they could go back to sailboats. Some have smaller sailboats for strictly racing and bigger sailboats for cruising/racing and passages.
jhiller
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We just bought a Bluestar 36. It's a beautiful 36 foot motor boat with a down-east look. It's built by Mark Bruckmann in Canada.
It's a terrific addition to the sailboat stable of Valiant 42, Bristol Channel Cutter, and Contessa 32.
If you ever travel to the Detroit area have a look !
Clean can't come ..... he was run out of town and there's still a bounty on him :blink:
Jim
It's a terrific addition to the sailboat stable of Valiant 42, Bristol Channel Cutter, and Contessa 32.
If you ever travel to the Detroit area have a look !
Clean can't come ..... he was run out of town and there's still a bounty on him :blink:
Jim
Wess
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The GB32 is a great boat, but do you know a good mechanic (and is he on retainer) if you are looking for one under $50K?
I will just say as having been there and done that (ie big boat with all the systems for more than a decade... decades actually). Think about it. It sucks money and even more... it sucks time. Like a F-ing Hoover; it sucks time from other things you could be doing with the family but will instead be spending by yourself keeping up the boat. When we were spending every weekend on board it was perfect, but now with two kids (and the dog) and kid's doing sports and sailing and friends it was to much work that sucked time from the family. The kid's and wife loved it when they could come but I was missing time with the family keeping it shipshape. Took a different tack.
Got a house that is a few minutes from the club and on the water in a community access kinda way. So we ditched the big boat and got: one Opti, two Lasers (one for home, one for club), one Snipe (well almost), one Pico, need to find an IC for winter, and we are buying a tri (I think). Oh, and a jetski (3 seater). With rod holders for fly fishing, and for towing, a tube, adult and kids (learner) skis, knee board, and wake board.
Good luck if you do it. Nothing as nice a family time on a boat for bonding.
Wess
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I have to agree with the posts that are asking why the GB (power) at all? We are slowly moving into that semi-retirement thing and just added a S2 35C as the family cruiser to complement the 25 foot sport boat (SR25). Some of our friends have large power boats and they leave the dock for a few hours every other weekend. I suppose it is nice to be able to take friends quickly to the next harbor with the power boat gobbling fuel, but a car would work too. So what if the power boat can get you from Baltimore to Annapolis and back for dinner in an evening. The overnighter on the 35 is much more fun. Actually about half the people we know with big power are thinking about going back to sail. The reasons are about equal between boredom and fuel costs driving them crazy. The S2 35C is a G&S design,epoxy hull (ours surveyed with no issues at 21 years), and can be had cheap enough to really totally replace all the toys and about stay in the budget. There are lots of boats out there in the 34 to 36 size range that would fit the bill as well.
NyJboat
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We have a Whaler 305 Conquest as our support boat, its been a great addition to the fleet. It lets us leave the yacht club later and stay at the parties longer, and still beat the other boats from our harbor to where were going. The best is durring the fall series' when its freezing cold and wet sitting behind all that glass and canvas while our friends are geting soaked on the way out and we stay nice and dry. Just a matter of getting the race boat to the event the night before.
First the FT-10 and now another "cruiser"? Dude. You got too much money man! Here's an alternative:
http://www.savethechildren.org
http://www.savethechildren.org
Think about an older Tiara 30 or 36. Those are pretty solid respectable boats that'll get you over to the Island in 1/3 of the time of a GB. It's hard to beat a GB for the classy look, but for the family I would recommend something faster! We can wakeboard behind my friend's 31 Open and has a lot more fun potential than a GB. Plus a lot less wood to worry about. While some of the older Tiara models have wood in the cockpit, it's not like the whole boat is brightwork that will go to shit if ignored.
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Dude, you live in San Diego! Where the hell would you cruise the GB to? No place worth the extra boat bucks it would cost you. If you absolutely have to get a stink potter, go with one that you can put on a trailer. While Bayliners get a bad rap (deservely so), the 2455 has a great layout for a couple with small kids. I only wish that some reputable builder would copy the interior and build a quality boat. :lol:
miltwempley
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Look into the Bertram Moppie. Nice little day cruiser than has a small cabin for weekending, too. Can be had for 50 or under and are built like tanks.
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Look on www.yachtworld.com.
sailmatt
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Looking for a classic Boston Whaler myself. Outrage 18 or 20. A mere skiff compared to what you're looking at.
The thought of maintaining 2 old boats is holding me back though. 2 (or3) motors to keep logs on. More washing. More "other people's fixes' to sort out. More storage to deal with. I guess its not an issue for roller like you though since it's just another few line items on the tab at the yard.
The thought of maintaining 2 old boats is holding me back though. 2 (or3) motors to keep logs on. More washing. More "other people's fixes' to sort out. More storage to deal with. I guess its not an issue for roller like you though since it's just another few line items on the tab at the yard.
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Critter
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Here you go Ed! If in fact that's your real name.
The Blackfish 42, you could own the first!!
They are taking orders now!
www.blackfishyachts.com
The Blackfish 42, you could own the first!!
They are taking orders now!
www.blackfishyachts.com
jhiller
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After I leave someone needs to "clean"up the puke, broken rum bottles and used condoms <_<
Let me know when your in town. We'll play for sure !
Jim
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1sailor
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My old WIlbur 31 used to pull our (unmanned) Mumm 30 to nearby regattas at 16 knots. Shortened deliveries by a bunch
A guy in the Chesapeake
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One other vessel to consider would be a late 70s or newer Egg Harbor - there's one in the Hampton, VA marina for sale for around $40K - (I know, wrong coast - just tossin' the idea out for consideration). It's a nice boat - but, VERY thirsty (the gas engines suck down about 8gph each @ cruise) - and HUGE.
wjquigs
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Actually, a trawler sounds exactly like what the Ed. needs for what he wants to do: "a little home base for the family (and dog) at our club".
If you fix the leaks, delamination, and blisters (or if you can live with them, buy cheap and sell cheap, which is what the last guy who owned your sub-$50k trawler did), and if you don't go very far or very often (after all, that's what the much more fun and faster sailboat is for), then you won't have much maintenance to do on a trawler.
Trawlers are the only powerboats designed with displacement hulls, which means they're the only powerboats as efficient as sailboats for fuel consumption. Their heavier displacement (most likely twice the displacement of your Beneteau) is offset by their more efficient prop arrangements (i.e., giant slow 4-blade prop). So he won't use much more fuel than you would use to motor your Beneteau to your lunch spot, as long as he doesn't try to get there faster than you.
Every boat entails compromises: most likely your Beneteau doesn't have the apartment-sized 110v fridge, freezer, oven, or two stand-up heads that the trawler has, and I seriously doubt that you have as much space inside your boat as inside the same LOA trawler (unless Hunter bought out Beneteau and nobody told me). The Ed. has already sacrificed the creature comforts of a boat like yours for a boat that offers pure speed. If you've got one end of the spectrum covered, why not cover the other end with a completely different boat?
For hanging out at the club, for post-race party and crash pad, for use as a committee boat, and for once in a while actually leaving the dock, you can't beat a trawler for style and efficiency.
If you fix the leaks, delamination, and blisters (or if you can live with them, buy cheap and sell cheap, which is what the last guy who owned your sub-$50k trawler did), and if you don't go very far or very often (after all, that's what the much more fun and faster sailboat is for), then you won't have much maintenance to do on a trawler.
Trawlers are the only powerboats designed with displacement hulls, which means they're the only powerboats as efficient as sailboats for fuel consumption. Their heavier displacement (most likely twice the displacement of your Beneteau) is offset by their more efficient prop arrangements (i.e., giant slow 4-blade prop). So he won't use much more fuel than you would use to motor your Beneteau to your lunch spot, as long as he doesn't try to get there faster than you.
Every boat entails compromises: most likely your Beneteau doesn't have the apartment-sized 110v fridge, freezer, oven, or two stand-up heads that the trawler has, and I seriously doubt that you have as much space inside your boat as inside the same LOA trawler (unless Hunter bought out Beneteau and nobody told me). The Ed. has already sacrificed the creature comforts of a boat like yours for a boat that offers pure speed. If you've got one end of the spectrum covered, why not cover the other end with a completely different boat?
For hanging out at the club, for post-race party and crash pad, for use as a committee boat, and for once in a while actually leaving the dock, you can't beat a trawler for style and efficiency.
