Pacific Cup 2022 - 91 entries and waitlist started

stinky

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Officially reported withdraw and change in division.

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Hitchhiker

Hoopy Frood
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1,207
Saquo-Pilia Hensha
So what's up with the flag?....Can't fucking win on the course....so take them to the room...
Seems more like a case of someone caught with 5 aces.

So much for the fun race to Hawaii.

Off topic, when calculating the ratings at the start of the race, I really did not want to believe that the Riptide owed the fastest rated J boat something on the order of 20 hours, but................
 

Hitchhiker

Hoopy Frood
4,526
1,207
Saquo-Pilia Hensha
I know I caught a bunch of shit for this earlier but I’m not surprised. The protest is for not sailing in ORR rating configuration for sails and other measured aspects or something like that (per the protest form). While I mentioned something about Ruffless earlier in the thread and I am glad this will get some discussion but it is a pretty ballsy protest coming from a boat that hasn’t re Weighed/measured in 8 years. Skip Navigated an amazing race his first and last third we’re a thing of beauty they got in a bit of trouble in the middle but stayed in it. I have done a Transpac with him on an STP65 great guy and very smart. So congratulations to the whole team they sailed an amazing race nonquestion. While it sucks for Ruffless and I hope they don’t get chucked I am glad the J125 fleet will be forced to discuss this. Nobody wants to be the guy that files that protest but it needed to be done. Fire suit on… again.
I'm not sure I understand your comments. Firstly, you made the suggestion that Rufless was not sailing in all honesty and you got called on it by TrevB. Now you seem to imply that Hamachi are not in proper trim. Is this a pandamnic in the J-125's?
 

fan

Super Anarchist
1,873
104
San Diego
I'm not sure I understand your comments. Firstly, you made the suggestion that Rufless was not sailing in all honesty and you got called on it by TrevB. Now you seem to imply that Hamachi are not in proper trim. Is this a pandamnic in the J-125's?
I did and he did and apparently they were since they retired immediately. I’m saying I don’t know and neither do they it’s been 8 years and I’ll leave it at that.
 

yoyo

Anarchist
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Did someone get caught cheating and then retire or was it a stupid mistake resulting in a retire?
Either way a lot of time, effort and money was spent - hope they had fun.
 

fan

Super Anarchist
1,873
104
San Diego
I remember one time many many moons ago J-Bird was DQ'ed from a Transpac win for not having thier storm jib. Could have sworn somebody put it on the boat but it wasn't there. Caught cheating or stupid mistake will we hear the story... does it matter?
 

sailcalifornia

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3
Having sailed a few 1000 miles on the old Derivative/Snoopy i can "weigh" in on the differences between 125s. I KNOW that some boats have had the headliners removed, all the wooden trim pieces replaced with carbon, looking at pictures of Hamachi and Rufless they both have removed the Metal hand rails and they both seem to have new sets of companion way stairs. And thats what easily seen, lithium batteries, and i am sure there are tons of other weight savings measures that have been done on the top boats.

I am fully aware of a J/125 that moves their pipe berths from side to side, so they only carry 2 and move them as needed to have both on one side, or split in the stern to have people sleeping in the proper place and not carrying the weight of 2 extra pipe berths.

It has been a few years since i have involved in the fleet but at that time NONE of the boats had been weighed recently even though some have been in pretty major diets. Until they all agree to weigh the boats, this will continue.
 
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Roleur

Super Anarchist
2,953
647
Orcas Island
Rufless was weighed in June just after us. They said it weighed “9500” pounds. What I can’t say is if that weight was used for their rating as it was late in the game for an ORR rating for Pac Cup.
 

Roleur

Super Anarchist
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647
Orcas Island
Thanks Hitch,

That was a really good race for us. As in, not too windy, which wouldn't have been so great. A few notables:

We sailed 300 extra miles, but kept moving well the entire time. Only 3 more miles than Pyewacket though. Made for a very pleasant race. We basically sailed down to the Transpac course and then went west.

First J/111 to race to Hawaii. The second J/111 to race to Hawaii is finishing as we speak (they started two days after us).

We finished a few hours faster in 2016 on a Schumacher 28. Wolfpack finished a full 3 days later than in 2016. It was not a fast race at all for the Monday/Tuesday starters. In fact, only half the fleet has finished 14 days after the first start.

The Hurricane Darby swells (highest surf in Hawaii in 50 years?) made the finish for most boats pretty epic. I've heard a few salty sailors say it was the largest waves they'd ever seen. Breeze was only low 20's for most, but I heard a 30 and a 40 in a squall near the finish too.

We were the first boat small enough to tie up to the bulkhead, so that is basically like winning it all! Yay!
 

stinky

Anarchist
946
158
Thanks Hitch,

That was a really good race for us. As in, not too windy, which wouldn't have been so great. A few notables:

We sailed 300 extra miles, but kept moving well the entire time. Only 3 more miles than Pyewacket though. Made for a very pleasant race. We basically sailed down to the Transpac course and then went west.

First J/111 to race to Hawaii. The second J/111 to race to Hawaii is finishing as we speak (they started two days after us).

We finished a few hours faster in 2016 on a Schumacher 28. Wolfpack finished a full 3 days later than in 2016. It was not a fast race at all for the Monday/Tuesday starters. In fact, only half the fleet has finished 14 days after the first start.

The Hurricane Darby swells (highest surf in Hawaii in 50 years?) made the finish for most boats pretty epic. I've heard a few salty sailors say it was the largest waves they'd ever seen. Breeze was only low 20's for most, but I heard a 30 and a 40 in a squall near the finish too.

We were the first boat small enough to tie up to the bulkhead, so that is basically like winning it all! Yay!
Nice race! Bold moves in the beginning, very fun to watch.
 

Dj4surf

New member
7
0
Hawaii
Looked like some hard decisions early on, hope to compete in the next one. The year I did it was straightforward.

I’m surprised Rufus didn’t want to fight the protest, looks like some sail discrepancies.
 

Raz'r

Super Anarchist
62,307
5,505
De Nile
Thanks Hitch,

That was a really good race for us. As in, not too windy, which wouldn't have been so great. A few notables:

We sailed 300 extra miles, but kept moving well the entire time. Only 3 more miles than Pyewacket though. Made for a very pleasant race. We basically sailed down to the Transpac course and then went west.

First J/111 to race to Hawaii. The second J/111 to race to Hawaii is finishing as we speak (they started two days after us).

We finished a few hours faster in 2016 on a Schumacher 28. Wolfpack finished a full 3 days later than in 2016. It was not a fast race at all for the Monday/Tuesday starters. In fact, only half the fleet has finished 14 days after the first start.

The Hurricane Darby swells (highest surf in Hawaii in 50 years?) made the finish for most boats pretty epic. I've heard a few salty sailors say it was the largest waves they'd ever seen. Breeze was only low 20's for most, but I heard a 30 and a 40 in a squall near the finish too.

We were the first boat small enough to tie up to the bulkhead, so that is basically like winning it all! Yay!
Swing by and say hello! We got in tonight. I’m still buzzing but great race. Really challenging for a first time navigator. God damn round down was costly. 2am. Pinned down. Fuck. But we lived.
 




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