Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

[Bob Perry]

Kim:

That is a sweet skiff. Can't see how you could do any better than that.

Don't listen to Tom. That boat is happiest being rowed.

 

[kimbottles]

And she looks good with her fellow fleet members. Not counting my inflatable these are all of my operational vessels at this time. Looking forward to adding the Big Sliver to the mix.....

I think I saw you leaving EBM last Thursday (or was it 2 Thursdays ago) in the cat. We were coming in for the Downtown Series. You SYC? This boat had a burgee off the bow.

sounds like me, please hail me next time, I always like meeting CA members.

 

[Beer fueled Mayhem]

And she looks good with her fellow fleet members. Not counting my inflatable these are all of my operational vessels at this time. Looking forward to adding the Big Sliver to the mix.....

I think I saw you leaving EBM last Thursday (or was it 2 Thursdays ago) in the cat. We were coming in for the Downtown Series. You SYC? This boat had a burgee off the bow.

sounds like me, please hail me next time, I always like meeting CA members.

Sure thing.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Kim:

That is a sweet skiff. Can't see how you could do any better than that.

Don't listen to Tom. That boat is happiest being rowed.

Hah! I was trying to echo Bolger's exasperation with people who insist on sailing paddle boats.

Although I admit I am occasionally one of those people.

Bolger claims one of his designs is actually a decent sailboat, rowboat, and powerboat. I'm skeptical. I may have to build it to find out.

 

[Ishmael]

Kim:

That is a sweet skiff. Can't see how you could do any better than that.

Don't listen to Tom. That boat is happiest being rowed.

Hah! I was trying to echo Bolger's exasperation with people who insist on sailing paddle boats.

Although I admit I am occasionally one of those people.

Bolger claims one of his designs is actually a decent sailboat, rowboat, and powerboat. I'm skeptical. I may have to build it to find out.

That particular design keeps crying to me also, but it would take a lot of plywood and you still have a fugly boat.

 

[beauvrolyk]

I think Kim needs one of those seats on a plank that the canoe sailors use. Then he could hike in comfort while sailing the little Sliver. Or maybe a Viking sail and only go down wind.

BV

 

[kimbottles]

I think Kim needs one of those seats on a plank that the canoe sailors use. Then he could hike in comfort while sailing the little Sliver. Or maybe a Viking sail and only go down wind.

BV

Baby Sliver does not have much stability, no keel and no rudder so.................., I think I will row or only sail down wind.

I am too old and creaky for the plank!

 

[kimbottles]

Monday.

Stringers 5 layers of the heavy eGlass. Poor old Fred was cutting and cutting and cutting.......and then rolling and rolling and rolling......Russell wasn't kidding when he said there was a heck of a lot of laminating to do on this interior.

Meanwhile Russell is busy getting the inside of the cabin truck prepped enough for painting....

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[kimbottles]

And the stringers have to be positioned relative to the bulkhead, which takes careful measurements to make sure everything comes out right.

The forward most bulkhead is angled back aft to accommodate the run of the fore-stay. Tight fit but I can get through it to the bow stem.

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[kimbottles]

Underside of the cockpit, not too many people will see it, but good to know the crew cares about it.

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[kimbottles]

The center section of the structural interior is all bonded together so now we can remove most of the jig and allow it to stand on its own which makes access to the last couple items before it get fitted to the hull easier. There will be some tight blind lamination to do once the center gets put in the hull, so Jordan has been planning how to do them carefully and adding little aids here and there...

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[kimbottles]

Bruce is trying to sell his delightful little Joel White designed Catspaw dinghy.

And we seem to have visitors often now at the shop, two sets of them stopped by while I was there this morning. Here is Jordan explaining the finer details of the project.

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[Bob Perry]

Of course you can get thru that hole Kim. Why do you think I designed it like that? You told me you had a 32" waist and I designed the opening accordingly.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Bolger claims one of his designs is actually a decent sailboat, rowboat, and powerboat. I'm skeptical. I may have to build it to find out.

That particular design keeps crying to me also, but it would take a lot of plywood and you still have a fugly boat.

Bolger explains at length, over and over, why multi-propulsion boats are bad. I've said similar things about the MacGregor powersailers.

But I still want something that will row, sail, and power. I agree it's ugly as homemade sin. That doesn't bother me a bit. I like it when other people have attractive boats, but don't really care about their viewing experience looking back at me.

Bruce is trying to sell his delightful little Joel White designed Catspaw dinghy.

Glad there is a continent between me and it.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Of course you can get thru that hole Kim. Why do you think I designed it like that? You told me you had a 32" waist and I designed the opening accordingly.

My father's diet plan for his whole life: he refuses to buy new pants. If he gets fat, he can't leave the house until he remedies the situation. It has worked.

 

[paps49]

Kim, it looks like the fwd bulkhead of the internal grid is set up for stringer cutouts, how will this happen? Will the grid be lowered in then moved fwd over the ends of the stringers?

Looking fantastic by the way. These guys attention to detail is amazing!

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Underside of the cockpit, not too many people will see it, but good to know the crew cares about it.

Kim, the boat looks great and thanks again for a complete Monday update. I had powerboating pics all lined up if you failed in your duty.

Bob, how do you (and designers in general) decide on the depth of the gutters around hatch lids? Those look a bit shallow to me, but then, pretty much all of them do. They always seem like they could use another inch or so. I hit the seam with a hose and water manages to splash down hard enough to bounce up around the corner and land where it does not belong. I might have mentioned my belief that a boat should have no puddles and no water where it does not belong when I'm done hosing it.

Am I the only one? Should I just HTFU as I go around with a sponge or chamois and get rid of the offending water? Or should I continue to mutter obscenities about designers?

 

[Innocent Bystander]

Underside of the cockpit, not too many people will see it, but good to know the crew cares about it.

Kim, the boat looks great and thanks again for a complete Monday update. I had powerboating pics all lined up if you failed in your duty.

Bob, how do you (and designers in general) decide on the depth of the gutters around hatch lids? Those look a bit shallow to me, but then, pretty much all of them do. They always seem like they could use another inch or so. I hit the seam with a hose and water manages to splash down hard enough to bounce up around the corner and land where it does not belong. I might have mentioned my belief that a boat should have no puddles and no water where it does not belong when I'm done hosing it.

Am I the only one? Should I just HTFU as I go around with a sponge or chamois and get rid of the offending water? Or should I continue to mutter obscenities about designers?

I'll throw in that I don't see limber holes at any of the frames or stringers. Was this a conscious decision? I'd be interested in the thoughts behind it. Assuming some water will find its way below at some point, how will you get it out?

Great pics and a very nice build.

 

[kimbottles]

Kim, it looks like the fwd bulkhead of the internal grid is set up for stringer cutouts, how will this happen? Will the grid be lowered in then moved fwd over the ends of the stringers?

Looking fantastic by the way. These guys attention to detail is amazing!

The reinforcing plates on the forward bulkhead of the center section are not notched therefore I believe the stringer will terminate at that reinforcing plate.

 

[kimbottles]

Underside of the cockpit, not too many people will see it, but good to know the crew cares about it.

Kim, the boat looks great and thanks again for a complete Monday update. I had powerboating pics all lined up if you failed in your duty.

Bob, how do you (and designers in general) decide on the depth of the gutters around hatch lids? Those look a bit shallow to me, but then, pretty much all of them do. They always seem like they could use another inch or so. I hit the seam with a hose and water manages to splash down hard enough to bounce up around the corner and land where it does not belong. I might have mentioned my belief that a boat should have no puddles and no water where it does not belong when I'm done hosing it.

Am I the only one? Should I just HTFU as I go around with a sponge or chamois and get rid of the offending water? Or should I continue to mutter obscenities about designers?

I'll throw in that I don't see limber holes at any of the frames or stringers. Was this a conscious decision? I'd be interested in the thoughts behind it. Assuming some water will find its way below at some point, how will you get it out?

Great pics and a very nice build.

The bulkheads all have a cutout (in the reinforcing plate) over the keelson to allow for "limbering". The upper stringers have a sloped top to shed water. The forward lower stringers slope aft, the aft lower stringers slope forward to shed water towards the center. And the ends are virtually completely open so inspecting for water retention will be easy. My Dad used to sponge out his bilge after every sail (on his Dragon) so I might have to follow suit if necessary.