Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

[kimbottles]

In most of the photos we were sort of in the "group hug" mode of weight distribution. The cockpit held eight big guys with room to spare. Not what you would do if seriously racing Not sure a crew of eight is what Kim has in mind for most of the boat's use but it's nice to know you can fit a crowd on board in comfort.

I think her racing crew will be between four and six, (depending on how many of us old guys are aboard.)

 

[zedboy]

How do they assign you a PHRF for a one-off? What if they decide they don't want you to win, and make your value negative a zillion?

Or do you just go out and race and say, "I won 'coz I came over the line first"?

 

[Bob Perry]

Zedder:

Damn good question:

FRANCIS LEE is pretty unique.

We had a long discussion with one of the local PHRF guys. Sort of a "You show me your's first, then I'll show you mine" discussion. I ended up sending them the VPP's for Frankie. With the VPP's the committee took a look at the SC 70 NEPTUNE'S CAR and decided that we should be a -3 NFS and -7 WFS. I had thrown out a "0" as a place to start but I knew I was being self serving with that number. I think the committee did a good job and that is a fair rating to start with. It was not an easy task. There are no similar boats. A lot of head scratching was involved.

 

[kimbottles]

Who care what she rates? I don't.

 

[zedboy]

Ok, for everyone reading between the lines: this is the second time Bob has mentioned the SC 70 in as many days.

Who is taking the official pool on whether Frankie is faster? (Do we break bets down into how many seconds per mile for force 2,3,4,etc?)

 

[Bob Perry]

No Zed. When we headed for the barn the SC70 was munching up a ways off to leeward of us. I don't think we would have won that race even if we had been in full race mode.

But I can always dream.

 

[SemiSalt]

In most of the photos we were sort of in the "group hug" mode of weight distribution. The cockpit held eight big guys with room to spare.

Cockpit as man cave?

A single number rating system, like PHRF, is a horses for courses situation. It will be interesting to find out what conditions give a big advantage, and which are less favorable. I'll bet the will be some conditions in which she is very hard to beat.

I was going to ask when the drawings for the aft cabin version will be available, but in decided it wasn't necessary to be a wise guy all the time.

This is going to be a boat that everyone is going to have an eye out for, sort of the way I still remember the first the I saw a 12 meter or Big Ti. Laude and honor all around.

 

[ProaSailor]

Tom:

If you study the photos carefully you will see eight big men (total weight about 1,600 lbs.) sitting in the cockpit That should give you a hint.

If you look at the pics of just me in the cockpit, the the seven men are below and you can see the slight change in trim.

If we had bveen racing we would have paid attention to trim. But we were not racing. We were just having fun and people congregated aft.

For reference Tom you might want to go back and look at the drawings posted erlier and see just how much of the bow was designed to be out. I think you will be surprised.

Center cockpit would fix that. Proa style. ;-) Beautiful boat, congratulations to all.

 

[Bob Perry]

Center cockpit?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Rasputin22]

Now you've got him started! Should have warned you about that...

 

[Bryanjb]

Lot more rig on a SC 70 and a whole lotta years learning how to make them go.

No Zed. When we headed for the barn the SC70 was munching up a ways off to leeward of us. I don't think we would have won that race even if we had been in full race mode.

But I can always dream.

 

[Bryanjb]

Sometimes the dogs spend time in the dog house. It would take a bit of chop for FL send the hounds below though.

In most of the photos we were sort of in the "group hug" mode of weight distribution. The cockpit held eight big guys with room to spare.

Cockpit as man cave?

A single number rating system, like PHRF, is a horses for courses situation. It will be interesting to find out what conditions give a big advantage, and which are less favorable. I'll bet the will be some conditions in which she is very hard to beat.

I was going to ask when the drawings for the aft cabin version will be available, but in decided it wasn't necessary to be a wise guy all the time.

This is going to be a boat that everyone is going to have an eye out for, sort of the way I still remember the first the I saw a 12 meter or Big Ti. Laude and honor all around.

 

[boomer]

 

[boomer]

 

[Thorvald]

Great time you guys, and great pics Boomer. Sounds like the boat meets or exceeds all expectations. I'll be looking forward to seeing Frankie sailing up to the shack, or maybe I'll just see her out sailing before that !

The performance of Bob's design simply blew me away, to say she exceeded my expectations is a massive understatement.

(I guess he does know how to design a boat. His thinking about boat design for the last 55 years seems to bear fruit.)

I guess we should keep him around a little longer. A guy keeps working at something, and after a while he gets pretty good at it.

 

[boomer]

 

[boomer]

View more at the link below. Easiest to use the slide show. On the right just above the images click on the rectangle with the arrow in it to start slideshow. Also when viewing the album by image, by clicking on an image, then double clicking image the slideshow will start.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/boomerdepp/sets/72157642853589933/

 

[nroose]

Wow.

 

[European Bloke]

What are the prevailing conditions over there, mostly light?

 

[boomer]

Depends on where your at in the NW and what time of year. The NW is generally considered a light air venue, but pre-frontal, frontal, and post frontal conditions can bump it up. South Sound is usually the lightest, with Center Sound getting a bit more wind. North Sound all of Admiralty Inlet can get a bit more wind then Center Sound, especially in the afternoons in the summer. The Straits can generally be calm or calm in the morning and blowing gangbusters in the afternoon, especially from Dungeness to Pt. Wilson and the entrance to Admiralty Inlet. If one wanted more consistant wind in the NW, Port Townsend would be a good place to live or keep a boat, especially if one like a small town boatbuilding community atmosphere. Though there are a wide range of people and professions in Port Townsend. But generally the Puget Sound is a light air venue and hope for frontal conditions to bump it up a notch or two.