pics: TF10, 2019 Vallejo Race

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Great to see these boats in motion... I spotted them in the parking lot of the recent sail/power show ... it was one of the highlights of the show to walk over and administer a *serious* eye-balling to two of these boats. It was difficult to adhere to look-don't-touch, and I probably owe somebody an apology for the puddles of drool. :p

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Wouldn't it just frost your petunias to buy one and then find out you can't enter offshore races in San Francisco because the rules require lifelines tied to the pulpit?  http://norcalorc.org/   which says in part related to trimarans, ... "...a lifeline must run from the top of a bow pulpit to the forward crossbeam at the outboard edge of the bow net or foredeck."

Coasties and the YRA around here just don't like multihulls.  

 
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MultiThom said:
Wouldn't it just frost your petunias to buy one and then find out you can't enter offshore races in San Francisco because the rules require lifelines tied to the pulpit?  http://norcalorc.org/   which says in part related to trimarans, ... "...a lifeline must run from the top of a bow pulpit to the forward crossbeam at the outboard edge of the bow net or foredeck."

Coasties and the YRA around here just don't like multihulls.  
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a few of the TF10 have pulpits , Mad Max is going to Australia where they are required

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he b gb

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Tony Considine said:
a few of the TF10 have pulpits , Mad Max is going to Australia where they are required

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Hi Tony, nice photo (nice boat!). I thought I read somewhere that you had pulled out on the TF10 due to problems with insurance? Anyway it will be great when she gets here and mixes with the local fleet. I’m sure a lot of people on this forum would like to hear some of your thoughts on this weapon now that it’s obviously up and going. Cheers, Gerald.

 
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Sure would and how about when the wife takes a walk up to that pulpit to get a snapshot of hubby flying his weapon clad in the inevitable crash helmet and Batman suit, does the whole flying circus take a bow and chuck everybody in the drink?

 
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he b gb said:
Hi Tony, nice photo (nice boat!). I thought I read somewhere that you had pulled out on the TF10 due to problems with insurance? Anyway it will be great when she gets here and mixes with the local fleet. I’m sure a lot of people on this forum would like to hear some of your thoughts on this weapon now that it’s obviously up and going. Cheers, Gerald.
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Hi Gerald

It took a while to get insurance which we now have that for all TF10s so we're looking forward to getting our boat to Australia by the end of June. We spent 3 days a month ago test sailing in Lelystad which was great, we were very happy with boats performance but it's very early days for us as far as foiling is concerned and there's a big learning curve ahead. I've just got back from watching the SailGP event in San Francisco and when you see world class sailors get it wrong at times, you start to appreciate the complexity of foiling. 

We raced the old Mad Max , a Grainger 10M cat for many years which is now Ullman Sails and we were looking for a new challenge and felt that foiling was becoming more mainstream and we'd like to give it a try. We looked around the world for something that was easily trailable as we race all around Australia and was designed from scratch to foil and we ended up choosing the TF10 which is beautifully built by Holland Composites. 

Our boat has a full Sailmon system installed which will record all aspects of our actual performance so in 12 months or so, we will be in a position to be able to quote real performance numbers. From our limited experience, I can say the boat is fast and has great potential but it will take time for us to learn how to foil consistently. 

regards

Tony

here's a link to YouTube 







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1 hour ago, Tony Considine said:

Hi Gerald

It took a while to get insurance which we now have that for all TF10s so we're looking forward to getting our boat to Australia by the end of June. We spent 3 days a month ago test sailing in Lelystad which was great, we were very happy with boats performance but it's very early days for us as far as foiling is concerned and there's a big learning curve ahead. I've just got back from watching the SailGP event in San Francisco and when you see world class sailors get it wrong at times, you start to appreciate the complexity of foiling. 

We raced the old Mad Max , a Grainger 10M cat for many years which is now Ullman Sails and we were looking for a new challenge and felt that foiling was becoming more mainstream and we'd like to give it a try. We looked around the world for something that was easily trailable as we race all around Australia and was designed from scratch to foil and we ended up choosing the TF10 which is beautifully built by Holland Composites. 

Our boat has a full Sailmon system installed which will record all aspects of our actual performance so in 12 months or so, we will be in a position to be able to quote real performance numbers. From our limited experience, I can say the boat is fast and has great potential but it will take time for us to learn how to foil consistently. 

regards

Tony

here's a link to YouTube 

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I checked out the YouTube vids, pure unadulterated boat porn  :wub:   thanks heaps for that and please keep it coming! 

 
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Are they fast? What kind of numbers are we looking at here?
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My experience last year in Newport was quite pleasant, we sailed in 5 kn TWS up to about 14 TWS over a few days.

Upwind in light was up to 9 knots BS, tacking through 90. Upwind in heavier, was 13 kn BS plus depending on where you put the bow, also tacking through 90. In short, it goes as fast or faster than a TP52 uphill.

Downhill in light stuff, say 8-10 knots BS in 5-6, gybing through 120. As the breeze came up, we happily trucked along at 23++, gybing through 90-100 degrees. You can take big bites down in the puffs. The AWA moves around a fair bit and the trick seemed to be to steer to that and keep the BS in a reasonable band, long enough to retrim the foils at least if that's what's required.

Our wave state was from zippo to up to about 4 feet when we went outdoors for a few hours, all happy and calm up on foils. Having come from lighter more "reactive" boats I was pleasantly surprised at the landings. It was more akin to riding a public transit bus that riding an irate Bull with an elastic strapped around its testicles.

The design brief as I recall was "gentlemen's foiler". In my estimation it totally hit the mark on that front. Build quality was also very nice.

 
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