The Cooper 42 is dark inside as well. The headliner has a pin hole pattern material that is perforated and sometimes that does not age well. The 42 does feature a bath, haha. The windows might be tough to replace and require custom units. My friend considered double glaze custom units in that case. If the ports are old, larger ones could be used for replacement.Thanks for the links, Norse Horse. While the Calkins is an interesting boat, I'm not ready for a wood boat. My brother has a 30 ft Bolger cat yawl that was designed and built for him about 27 years ago. It's been pretty reasonable for upkeep but I'd really like to minimize that kind of maintenance at the moment.
I'd forgotten about the Newport 33 pilothouse. With a raised saloon, it looks airy. I do like Gary Mull designs. Possibly an autopilot remote could work from the cabin. I saw an ad for the 39 foot version of this boat for sale a year or two ago in California. I think it started out at $110K and was working it's way down past $80K by the time I stopped tracking it. Not too many were made from what I understand. I'll have to do some research on the 33.
I've always liked the look of the Gulf 32 but hear varying reports on its sailing abilities. I talked to an owner about 10 yrs ago that sold his Westsail 42 to a young couple in Alaska provided he'd accompany them on their trip with the boat back to Alaska. His replacement boat was a Gulf 32. He said on one stretch, they got into the roughest water he's seen and the Gulf seemed to handle it much better than the Westsail. I guess that doesn't mean it sails well, though, since they were probably motoring. Other articles have indicated how when rough, it can punch through the chop sailing where lighter boats slow down. I guess that doesn't help with the light winds around here, though.
I looked at the Cooper 353 yesterday. I didn't particularly care for it. Probably more a case of this particular one. It seemed too dark inside due to the dark woods, dark fabrics and small ports down below. I had the same feeling when going on an older Gulf 32 pilothouse a month ago. I wonder about spending time down there with our typical gray winter weather. The lower edge of the forward facing windows were pretty high. I don't think I'd be able to see anything low in front of the boat for maybe a mile out. Cracks on the plexiglass side windows. It also seemed to have a lot of freeboard and with my wife's knees, we broke out a ladder for her. I wonder about docking in a crosswind with the freeboard and pilothouse height plus just the aesthetics. It does make for a reasonably large interior. I liked a raised cockpit platform behind the wheel to allow seeing over the pilothouse. Unfortunately, the cockpit canvas was too low so I couldn't stand up without hitting my head. I won't cross it off my list just yet, though.
With that high bulwark and strong sheer, I don't think the sightlines from the PH are very good.The Coopers I saw or sailed on, (35 and 50), many, many years ago, we're, umm marginal. They'd do the job but... Ditto for the Newports. The 30 and 41 had plastic thru hulls and I don't mean Marelon, I mean, like, cheap plastic! The Truants are intriguing but I've never been aboard one.
Probably true, I've seen VERY few so called pilothouse sailboats with more than minimal to downright marginal views forward. A decent dodger is usually better but, we're now perilously close to drifting towards that other thread...With that high bulwark and strong sheer, I don't think the sightlines from the PH are very good.
Cool boat!Stole this from the Craigslist not mocking thread. If you're not getting one of Bob's PH designs, that actually sail well, and are thinking coopers or rawsons, etc that don't...As you'll be motoring most time anyway, why not just do this?
Pardon my "French" but oh FUCK, yes. I have friends in Port Townsend with a 40's Monk cruiser and I love that boat. I'm not a big powerboat guy, but gorgeous is just gorgeous no matter what.Stole this from the Craigslist not mocking thread. If you're not getting one of Bob's PH designs, that actually sail well, and are thinking coopers or rawsons, etc that don't...As you'll be motoring most time anyway, why not just do this?
Not a great shot and an old one from when I kept the hard dingy forward of the mast in my first year with the boat. But the visibility forward in my pilothouse in quite good. Granted, at 6'4" I have great visibility everywhere I sit.Probably true, I've seen VERY few so called pilothouse sailboats with more than minimal to downright marginal views forward. A decent dodger is usually better but, we're now perilously close to drifting towards that other thread...
Actually I have. With the cabin roof hatch (24X24) I can see the main and even with the cutter rig I can still see both sets of telltales forward. I have not tried to do it for extended periods, but while making coffee or lunch it works very well.Sure is a good looking interior and view on your North Sea 34. Have you tried sailing from inside and if so, any thoughts on it?