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Prada Cup

mako23

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In the Christmas cup I felt the course was not very wide, you could be on one tack and within minutes you were at the boundary. In the Prada Cup and America’s Cup will the same course dimensions be used. 

 

jaysper

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In the Christmas cup I felt the course was not very wide, you could be on one tack and within minutes you were at the boundary. In the Prada Cup and America’s Cup will the same course dimensions be used. 
I believe so and yes it was bloody stupid, especially in the start box where the boats had about 3 square metres to manouvre in.

 

sailer99

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In the Christmas cup I felt the course was not very wide, you could be on one tack and within minutes you were at the boundary. In the Prada Cup and America’s Cup will the same course dimensions be used. 
I think the course dimensions achieve their goal, wide enough to allow leverage, narrow enough to force frequent maneuvers. If you make it wider, it will almost guarantee the faster boat win the race. Keeping it close makes that pass difficult, and more maneuvers force crews to be good as mistakes are costly. 

 

Horn Rock

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I think the big question for Ineos is, in the 12 opportunities they have in the Prada Cup, will they be able to win a race? How will big Jim react if they don't procure a single win in Auckland for the entire summer?

 

jaysper

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I think the big question for Ineos is, in the 12 opportunities they have in the Prada Cup, will they be able to win a race? How will big Jim react if they don't procure a single win in Auckland for the entire summer?
Even the frogs won a couple last time, so you'd hope this is an unlikely scenario.

 

rh3000

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Shirley Robertson has just released 2 podcast episodes for the Prada Cup. It's worth restating what a great job she is doing in coverage, meaningful questions, and giving interviewees enough time and room to be able to think and answer. 

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5idXp6c3Byb3V0LmNvbS8zNjQ4MjAucnNz/episode/QnV6enNwcm91dC03MDg4MTAx?sa=X&ved=0CAUQkfYCahcKEwjgy8SqwYPuAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAg

In Part 1 of this Edition, Robertson talks to her fellow Broadcast Commentators at the Cup, as Kenny Read and Nathan Outteridge discuss all they have seen in the World Series racing to date, and weigh up the strengths of each of the three Challengers as the Prada Cup draws near.  The trio dissect the performance of the three teams to date, look at where each team may be able to improve and discuss some of the design differences apparent in each of the Challenger set ups.

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5idXp6c3Byb3V0LmNvbS8zNjQ4MjAucnNz/episode/QnV6enNwcm91dC03MDg4MTMx?sa=X&ved=0CAUQkfYCahcKEwjgy8SqwYPuAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAg

In Part 2 of this month's Edition, Robertson then sits down with three key players from the Challengers themselves, kicking things off with American Magic skipper Terry Hutchinson.  The only team to have beaten all three of the other teams in the December racing here in Auckland, American Magic put in a solid performance pre Christmas, although Hutchinson was quick to point out that they still didn't win the regatta.  He did however reveal how happy the team were to be back out on the water mixing it up with their rivals...:

"Andrew Campbell commented that for the last eighteen months our simulator and our VPP have driven us to sail the boat in a different way and we're learning how to sail the boat around how these tools have taught us to sail the boat, and they're quite good, quite exciting, and yet it just hits you right in the face that all this equipment that you have is good, but it's not real life, and so we have to get back on the water and do it in real life."

From Challenger of Record Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli, Robertson talks to helm Francesco 'Checco' Bruni, unique in the Cup in that he is co-helm of the Italian boat with Australian Jimmy Spithill.  Bruni starts by reflecting on the team's performance during the December races...:

"We definitely felt we were very strong in the light wind and missing something in the stronger wind so our focus obviously is to work on that weakness, but we knew already that all our components for that period of the racing would have been good in the lighter wind."

Robertson's third chat is with a returning podcast guest, Sir Ben Ainslie, Team Principal and helm of British challenger INEOS TEAM UK.  The British boat suffered performance issues during the December racing, at times struggling to get up onto the foils in the lighter airs.  Forthright and pragmatic in the press conferences that followed racing, sitting down with Robertson for the podcast, a determined Ben Ainslie was hopeful that his team would be able to become more and more of a threat over the running of the Prada Cup.

"You can certainly change your measurement certificate through the Prada Cup through the different rounds....and also how you sail the boat and set the boat up.  So I think you'll see a lot of improvements through the Prada Cup, and whoever gets through, we're certainly going to have to push each other hard for that Challenger to give the Kiwis a race, because right now they're head and shoulders above the three other teams and we've really got to up our game to be competitive against them."

 

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weta27

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NZ Herald article, 1pm today, behind paywall.
 
America's Cup 2021: More races for Team New Zealand in last-minute schedule change
 
Some last-minute negotiating has seen two days of practice racing - that will include defender Team New Zealand - scheduled for Monday and Tuesday ahead of the start of the Prada Cup challenger series.
 
A compromise has clearly been reached and the Herald understands all four teams will have practice races on Monday and Tuesday before the challengers' boats are officially measured on Wednesday ahead of the Prada Cup opening round robin starting on Friday.
 
It's understood the practice races couldn't be held unless Team New Zealand were included. Each team will have four practice races, news that will no doubt please the Kiwis, who will then spend the next eight weeks going it alone while the challengers compete for the right to challenge for the Auld Mug.
 
i.e., practice racing tomorrow!
 

JALhazmat

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Let it not be said that they haven’t got their way when it comes to getting extra races in, anyone might thing they were a touch worried Pete might.need a bit of ra e practice? (Who the fuck knows and it’s a joke for anyone thin skinned enough to take offence, you can fuck the starts completely when your boat is as fast as theirs) 

I think the compromise was moving the date set up had to be declared until after the practice races? 

 

jaysper

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Let it not be said that they haven’t got their way when it comes to getting extra races in, anyone might thing they were a touch worried Pete might.need a bit of ra e practice? (Who the fuck knows and it’s a joke for anyone thin skinned enough to take offence, you can fuck the starts completely when your boat is as fast as theirs) 

I think the compromise was moving the date set up had to be declared until after the practice races? 
They apparently only need to declare 2 days in advance of Friday so I'm guessing no such compromise occured.

Don't really give a monkey's about the extra "races" could they'll be about as informative as the last lot of practice races. Especially since there has been no intent to broadcast them signalled.

 

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^ ^^ Why guess? Just read the official information posted above - declaration dates included

 


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