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^ Huh :lol: ..... there was a group here who swore no further practice races would take place - because of Team interests. Hmmm?

 
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jaysper

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^ Huh :lol: ..... there was a group here who swore no further practice races would take place - because of Team interests. Hmmm?
I was one of them and I still don't understand it.

Good benefit for ETNZ who have more time up their sleeves, but for the challengers? Weird.

 

Stingray~

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I was one of them and I still don't understand it.

Good benefit for ETNZ who have more time up their sleeves, but for the challengers? Weird.
Seems to run counter to the Protocol, ETNZ getting any action against the Challs after the last ACWS, but I haven’t read the details around how it somehow happened anyway. 
 

Regardless, it seems unlikely that anyone will take this too seriously; it’s mostly about teething problems with the RMS. 

 

winchfodder

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I was one of them and I still don't understand it.

Good benefit for ETNZ who have more time up their sleeves, but for the challengers? Weird.
It was a deal apparently in exchange for the committee boats and the days. Tnz said Wednesday Thursday. Challengers wanted Monday Tuesday. 

 
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jaysper

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Seems to run counter to the Protocol, ETNZ getting any action against the Challs after the last ACWS, but I haven’t read the details around how it somehow happened anyway. 
 

Regardless, it seems unlikely that anyone will take this too seriously; it’s mostly about teething problems with the RMS. 
I can only assume they ALL agreed to it otherwise it wouldn't happen.

And if thats the case then its all fair. Just grates me that Challengers meet the defender before the cup itself but shrug.

 

winchfodder

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I can only assume they ALL agreed to it otherwise it wouldn't happen.

And if thats the case then its all fair. Just grates me that Challengers meet the defender before the cup itself but shrug.
Talk of the frackers tuning up TNZ once they are eliminated in exchange for the COR deal equally rude. I can see the commodore of the NYYC calling up the commodore of the RYS and telling him it is not cricket.

 

Stingray~

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If Ineos does use this practice to race-tune with ETNZ, while the other Challs refuse to engage, well it could be a telling sign that there’s some kind of cooperation going on behind the scenes. I suppose if there’s any good news in that, it’s that Ratty, win or lose, is already in for another campaign. 

 

enigmatically2

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Talk of the frackers tuning up TNZ once they are eliminated in exchange for the COR deal equally rude. I can see the commodore of the NYYC calling up the commodore of the RYS and telling him it is not cricket.
I'm amazed that any Kiwis on here would even contemplate UK tuning up NZ because according to them UK are far too slow.

And if the recent speed against AM and LR is true then it's irrelevant because we won't be eliminated

 

jaysper

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I'm amazed that any Kiwis on here would even contemplate UK tuning up NZ because according to them UK are far too slow.

And if the recent speed against AM and LR is true then it's irrelevant because we won't be eliminated
I don't think INEOS can close the gap (can always be wrong) but I don't support ANY challenger tuning up ANY defender.

It sucked when Chris Dickson did it in San Diego, sucked when Barker did it last time and would suck again if happens here.

NOT suggesting it is cheating, just goes against what I like about the AC.

To be honest, these days you can barely say it flies against tradition cos so many challengers have done it :-(

 

JALhazmat

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If Ineos does use this practice to race-tune with ETNZ, while the other Challs refuse to engage, well it could be a telling sign that there’s some kind of cooperation going on behind the scenes. I suppose if there’s any good news in that, it’s that Ratty, win or lose, is already in for another campaign. 
Or that the last thing they want to do is confirm any improvement of INEOS  before they have to race them for real. 
 

 

winchfodder

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I don't think INEOS can close the gap (can always be wrong) but I don't support ANY challenger tuning up ANY defender.

It sucked when Chris Dickson did it in San Diego, sucked when Barker did it last time and would suck again if happens here.

NOT suggesting it is cheating, just goes against what I like about the AC.

To be honest, these days you can barely say it flies against tradition cos so many challengers have done it :-(
Agreed. Totally out of order and out of the spirit of the Cup. 

 

rh3000

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If Ineos does use this practice to race-tune with ETNZ, while the other Challs refuse to engage, well it could be a telling sign that there’s some kind of cooperation going on behind the scenes. I suppose if there’s any good news in that, it’s that Ratty, win or lose, is already in for another campaign. 
You've obviously not seen the videos of challengers doing 'co-ordinated racing' in a way that is also inconsistent with the prot...

You've always been a stickler for the 'spirit' of things eh... so no doubt that footage will raise your hackles too :)

 

Board skiff

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and out of the spirit of the Cup. 
Has there been much spirit in the entire history of the Cup?  One hundred and seventy years of legal dispute and stacking the cards and throwing rattles out of prams. Thinking about it, it’s a wonder Trump has never been involved. 

 

Sailbydate

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I'm amazed that any Kiwis on here would even contemplate UK tuning up NZ because according to them UK are far too slow.

And if the recent speed against AM and LR is true then it's irrelevant because we won't be eliminated
Good logic there, Riddle. That'll have one or two scratching their mullets. ;-)

 
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