Protocol for the 37th America’s Cup

NeedAClew

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It was about Whingers, Whiners, and Wankers. :unsure:
Oh gee, next time I need to add "Larry and Ernesto...didn't publicly whine ABOUT NOT GETTING ENOUGH TAXPAYER MONEY OR ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD TO RUN THE EVENT, BUILD BOATS AND HAVE A TEAM TOO."

Sorry the era of spunky little underfunded underdogs from feisty little countries winning on a shoestring  seems to be ending. 

 

NeedAClew

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I much prefer watching the Q crowd waiting for the Kennedy(s) return...in fucking Dallas.
But they aren't holding out tin cups.  "If you don’t know where the money will come from to fund a Defense, you really can't afford to challenge."

 
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Raz'r

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Oh gee, next time I need to add "Larry and Ernesto...didn't publicly whine ABOUT NOT GETTING ENOUGH TAXPAYER MONEY OR ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD TO RUN THE EVENT, BUILD BOATS AND HAVE A TEAM TOO."

Sorry the era of spunky little underfunded underdogs from feisty little countries winning on a shoestring  seems to be ending. 
Sure Larry and Russell did about the 1st part. I remember distinctly the "SF Play ball or we're moving" and SF saying to, well, "fuck off"

Bermuda certainly wasn't a normal course on the GGYC course sheet.

The Kiwis just need another billionaire to step up. 

 

floater

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Sure Larry and Russell did about the 1st part. I remember distinctly the "SF Play ball or we're moving" and SF saying to, well, "fuck off"

Bermuda certainly wasn't a normal course on the GGYC course sheet.

The Kiwis just need another billionaire to step up. 
iirc - SF told them to fuck off right at the get-go. And it was understood they weren't going to be able to return to the pier - so it was a one-time gig. and for quite a while it didn't seem to matter - as the "next event" didn't seem it was going to be a thing. Which of course, as it turned out, it wasn't - as a self fulfilling prophecy.

makes one wonder though - is a troupe of clowns at Pier 39 worth more in annual revenue to SF than an America's Cup match? After all, the clowns at least have a pier to play on.

 
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Sailbydate

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But they aren't holding out tin cups.  "If you don’t know where the money will come from to fund a Defense, you really can't afford to challenge."
The world changes, Clew - as does our circumstances. We adapt, or we die.

Can you see any signs of TNZ taking its last breath - yet? You might want to hold off on that obituary for a year or three yet.

 

shebeen

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iirc - SF told them to fuck off right at the get-go. And it was understood they weren't going to be able to return to the pier - so it was a one-time gig. and for quite a while it didn't seem to matter - as the "next event" didn't seem it was going to be a thing. Which of course, as it turned out, it wasn't - as a self fulfilling prophecy.

makes one wonder though - is a troupe of clowns at Pier 39 worth more in annual revenue to SF than an America's Cup match? After all, the clowns at least have a pier to play on.
The sailGP final early next year. Is it likely to be on the same course area as AC34?

 

Schakel

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Yearly america's cup chess will be won by swedish Magnus Carlsen.
Price money is 1.2 mln Euro for Magnus,
0.8 mln for Nepo.
https://chess24.com/en/read/news/carlsen-nepo-10-magnus-on-the-brink-of-victory
He won:
https://nos.nl/artikel/2408965-carlsen-prolongeert-wereldtitel-schaken-en-verlengt-heerschappij-tot-tien-jaar
Magnus Wining.jpg

 
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barfy

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But they aren't holding out tin cups.  "If you don’t know where the money will come from to fund a Defense, you really can't afford to challenge."
C'mon...I know it's OT but the entire premise of the Q and half of the 35% of media content in a large country chaotic poorly directed Shit Show is just to fill the tin cups.

 

Schakel

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A plan could be to have solar panels at base that charge up the batteries used for racing.

This is what Tesla does with many of their supercharging spots - note that they do not have solar panels on their cars.

https://qz.com/1482588/why-teslas-dont-and-cant-have-solar-roofs/
Mercedes is ahead of Tesla, They launched their concept solar car Mercedes Vision EQXX.
If the cup wants to lead in cutting edge technology they missed this opportunity.
The proposed AC75 is a concept as well. By the time the boats sail the final cuprace these cars are in production:
Mercedes Vision EQXX 3 specs.png
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Mercedes Vision EQXX 3.png

Source: https://www.techradar.com/news/mercedes-benz-vision-eqxx

 
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rh3000

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Mercedes is ahead of Tesla, They launched their concept solar car Mercedes Vision EQXX.
If the cup wants to lead in cutting edge technology they missed this opportunity.
The proposed AC75 is a concept as well. By the time the boats sail the final cuprace these cars are in production:
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Source: https://www.techradar.com/news/mercedes-benz-vision-eqxx
Did you bother to read the article? The panel has nothing innovative to offer that car - the range is due to aero. The solar panel has its own battery's and is just used for ancillaries like AC. Best case scenario could extend range by 2.5%.

Solar driven ancillaries have been on cars before EVs existed. Mazda was doing this in 1992 with their 929.

Onboard solar isn't a good idea and won't make AC75s faster... 

Oh and BTW the first line states this concept car will never be produced so I don't think it will also arrive in time no matter how long you wait...

 
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Fiji Bitter

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The solar panel has its own battery's and is just used for ancillaries like AC.
Well, that might be Prof. Shackle's great contribution in AC, green Airco in the helmets, to keep their heads cool in Jeddah.

Incredible what a bit of brainstorming on SA can achieve. B)

 

Schakel

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Did you bother to read the article? The panel has nothing innovative to offer that car - the range is due to aero. The solar panel has its own battery's and is just used for ancillaries like AC. Best case scenario could extend range by 2.5%.

Solar driven ancillaries have been on cars before EVs existed. Mazda was doing this in 1992 with their 929.

Onboard solar isn't a good idea and won't make AC75s faster... 

Oh and BTW the first line states this concept car will never be produced so I don't think it will also arrive in time no matter how long you wait...
The solar panels are producing electricity that can be stored even when you are not in the car or at the boat.
So less shore power is needed and the 2,5 % gain while on the water racing is an extra bonus.

When a team is able to install more effecient solar cells the gain might be 10, 30 or 50 %.
This is the state of the art of effinciency of Photo Electric research cells. Why not use them?
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But it is a big afford and it's very technological, if the teams are not willing to do so, better luck next time. It's an expensive exercise as well.

Mazda was doing this in 1992 with their 929. True, but the above graph shows a lot has happened since then. 

Even a gain of 1 percent counts in top racing.


 
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shebeen

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Mercedes is ahead of Tesla, They launched their concept solar car Mercedes Vision EQXX.
If the cup wants to lead in cutting edge technology they missed this opportunity.
The proposed AC75 is a concept as well. By the time the boats sail the final cuprace these cars are in production:
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Source: https://www.techradar.com/news/mercedes-benz-vision-eqxx
New year and prof Jack of All is still on this crap. 

If only they could use green energy to power the AC75 v2.

Oh wait they already do, it's called wind.

 
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