Yeah, probably not great. I don't know the situation with the Russian SAMs and how effective they've been. In theory, they (RUS) should own the sky, but they don't. So maybe they've been as effective as the rest of their military. Which is to say not great.How good are they in a heavy and completely un-suppressed SAM environment? I'll venture a guess they not as good as a half-dozen mud humpers with Javelins. They've been knocking the piss out of Russian armor without planes.