Putin is losing his war badly, so bad he threatened nukes. What should the response be if he does?

CampDog

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GIVE Ukraine a bunch of tactical nukes, with launchers, and call things square. Then see how Putin likes threatening a country that can hit back.

FKT

If Russia nukes Ukraine, no one will do anything, including the US ... because they will die too.
 

phill_nz

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Crimea is a bit different, It's ethnically Russian and was held by Russia for about 400 years.
doesn't justify putins grab of it
and its a bit of a simplistic description
from mem it was the / a home of the tartars that stalin and a few other russian leaders destroyed periodically ,, before the Russians it was ottoman .. before that probably roman, macedonian, gengis khan, persian and god knows what else
stopping the history wheel at any point and saying .. well it was theirs sort of forgets that its been almost everyone's at one point or another
 

ShortForBob

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doesn't justify putins grab of it
and its a bit of a simplistic description
from mem it was the / a home of the tartars that stalin and a few other russian leaders destroyed periodically ,, before the Russians it was ottoman .. before that probably roman, macedonian, gengis khan, persian and god knows what else
stopping the history wheel at any point and saying .. well it was theirs sort of forgets that its been almost everyone's at one point or another
And the Crimean war? I believe Russia held the Crimea up until around 1856 then it's gone back and forward and the majority ARE ethnically Russian.
Just sayin that the situation is not exactly the same as what Putins claiming in Donblas
 

mikewof

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There is one play that I've not seen discussed, because it's really, really radical.

At the breakup of the USSR, Ukraine was a nuclear power. In return for security guarantees, they gave up their nukes.

Well the security guarantees have turned out to be worthless, so returning to the status quo ante is only fair.

GIVE Ukraine a bunch of tactical nukes, with launchers, and call things square. Then see how Putin likes threatening a country that can hit back.

FKT

Your idea would violate the NPT.
 

ShortForBob

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Putin's losing the war so badly



A Russian draft officer has been shot by a man angry at his friend’s conscription and another man has set himself on fire in a protest as opposition to Vladimir Putin’s announcement of a partial mobilisation for the war in Ukraine grows.

Protests were also expected to continue for a third day in Russia’s Dagestan region, where officers have fired automatic weapons in the air to disperse angry crowds. Meanwhile, thousands of cars have lined up at the Russian borders carrying young men seeking to flee the country in order to escape the draft.


There is a sense that tensions are rising across Russia, as angry showdowns at local draft centres play out in videos published to social media and rumours circulate about an impending closure of the borders or even martial law.


People queue for food distribution beside a damaged building in Mariupol, eastern Ukraine
Russia-Ukraine war latest: what we know on day 215 of the invasion
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This is “only the fifth day” of conscription, wrote Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to the Ukrainian president. “Before the coffins begin to return.”

The Kremlin has sought to calm Russians, saying that no decisions have been made to shut the borders or impose martial law. But the backlash has already begun.

A draft officer was shot in Ust-Ilimsk, a town of about 85,000 people in the Irkutsk region in Siberia. Video showed him being shot at close range by another man dressed in camouflage clothing as other potential draftees fled the room.

The official was carried from the building and placed on to a stretcher. He appeared not to be moving. As he was placed into an ambulance, one woman said: “One, two, three, and he’s dead.”
 

LeoV

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One reaction could be, free hand for Ukraine. March into Russia that is now poorly defended, Moscow is not that far. Himars all nuclear reactors in Russia near Kursk etc.

 
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Putin's losing the war so badly



A Russian draft officer has been shot by a man angry at his friend’s conscription and another man has set himself on fire in a protest as opposition to Vladimir Putin’s announcement of a partial mobilisation for the war in Ukraine grows.

Protests were also expected to continue for a third day in Russia’s Dagestan region, where officers have fired automatic weapons in the air to disperse angry crowds. Meanwhile, thousands of cars have lined up at the Russian borders carrying young men seeking to flee the country in order to escape the draft.


There is a sense that tensions are rising across Russia, as angry showdowns at local draft centres play out in videos published to social media and rumours circulate about an impending closure of the borders or even martial law.

People queue for food distribution beside a damaged building in Mariupol, eastern Ukraine
Russia-Ukraine war latest: what we know on day 215 of the invasion
Read more

This is “only the fifth day” of conscription, wrote Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to the Ukrainian president. “Before the coffins begin to return.”

The Kremlin has sought to calm Russians, saying that no decisions have been made to shut the borders or impose martial law. But the backlash has already begun.

A draft officer was shot in Ust-Ilimsk, a town of about 85,000 people in the Irkutsk region in Siberia. Video showed him being shot at close range by another man dressed in camouflage clothing as other potential draftees fled the room.

The official was carried from the building and placed on to a stretcher. He appeared not to be moving. As he was placed into an ambulance, one woman said: “One, two, three, and he’s dead.”
Yes it’s quite volatile. Best left unfucked with.
 

SloopJonB

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Well, on the upside, if they have weapons he's better than Stalin.

The Kremlin’s talking heads tried to remain upbeat about calling up citizens to fight, amid reports that men were being sent to the front after only one day of military training.
 
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Well, on the upside, if they have weapons he's better than Stalin.

The Kremlin’s talking heads tried to remain upbeat about calling up citizens to fight, amid reports that men were being sent to the front after only one day of military training.
They’ve really fucked themselves.
 
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