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benthivore
See, it isn't just Americans who fawn before celebrities. The thing that troubles me is the thinking of her reign as "service." That's crapola. I think of service as something involving some sacrifice. She had, arguably, the best job in the world and did it well. Service jobs don't pay in jeweled crowns.
I was hoping Charles might step aside but few dads would do so for sons. Theego service is too vital, one supposes. Now I'm hoping Charles goes away quickly, and William gets in and scrubs all the "royal" bullshit. They had their 15 min. The world moved on.
I was hoping Charles might step aside but few dads would do so for sons. The
Steam Flyer
Sophisticated Yet Humble
The same way -all- inherited wealth is developed... by having ancestors who were good at smacking people over the head and profiting from it.
Peter Andersen
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It was during the Obama's first visit, though, that Mr Obama gifted Her Majesty a very unusual present, which left many wondering if it made the cut.The former US President chose an iPod filled with photos from his inauguration and clips of his speeches.
The bestowing of the gift brought a cringe from one top etiquette expert, who said it confirmed that Mr Obama had not figured out presidential gift-giving.Anna Post of the Emily Post Institute said in 2009: “For me, the iPod only works if he has some catchy reason why he gave it as a gift.
"Otherwise it feels like somebody at the White House pulled the lever and an iPod is what popped up.
"And if it was just pulled out of the blue, you run the risk of the ‘Oh, how nice,’ reaction from people which is the polite gloss of, ‘What on earth am I going to do with this?’ ”
Israel Hands
Super Anarchist
Well there's making an effort, and then there's consistently being a callous oaf on the world stage.
Manners maketh man.
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Nice to see the crown get handed to a racist, stiff, humorless, prick. And yall decided to replace your drunken slob head of state w/ perhaps the ugliest woman I've ever seen? lol what a week for your bleak, diminshed little island
Btw, the bitch had 4 kids and each and every one of them got divorced. Which is remarkable because the #1 cause of divorce is financial stress, yet they had none. A remarkable failure, especially for a family that has literally been handed everything anyone could ever ask for.
PS-- is Kate banging Sir Ben? kinda seems like it.
Btw, the bitch had 4 kids and each and every one of them got divorced. Which is remarkable because the #1 cause of divorce is financial stress, yet they had none. A remarkable failure, especially for a family that has literally been handed everything anyone could ever ask for.
PS-- is Kate banging Sir Ben? kinda seems like it.
Point Break
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The monarch’s role is hardly without work. There are some constitutional powers the monarch has but there is a “ceremonial” element of leadership and stabilizing influence the monarch seems to have. Those roles are important only because the monarch embraces and leans into those responsibilities AND the country finds those actions as important and valuable. Those activities seem to keep the entire royal family busy. I heard on some news coverage - which we will have to endure for the next month or so - that last year Charles made over 500 personal appearances……any way you cut it that’s a fair amount of work. They seem to be mostly cheerleaders but they are cheerleaders who the country widely embraces. It’s a pact between the royals and their “subjects”. The fact that they live in some opulent surroundings seems to only add to the “mystique”. While there are detractors, some in this thread, one cannot dispute that the vast majority of the country loves their Royals and adores their Queen. We colonials chose a different path but observing from afar it seems the institution is valuable to the country.
JimC
Not actually an anarchist.
The big advantage of constitutional monarchy is the reduced status of politicians. I submit that it does a head politician nothing but good to have to acknowledge that they have a superior and, preferably, to have to go and bow and scrape to the boss at regular intervals. The world is not short of examples of head politicians who don't acknowledge any superior, and I submit many, if not most of them reinforce the argument.
SloopJonB
Super Anarchist
I think it was "bend a knee".
SloopJonB
Super Anarchist
Heard a story once (probably apocryphal) about her stopping alone for a cuppa in a tea shop near Balmoral. (She did spend time alone there - probably why she liked it so much)
A couple of customers approached her and one said "Do you know you look just like the Queen?"
She replied "How very reassuring".
My wife saw her on one of the Caribbean islands - she looked like her aunt and when her limo paused beside my wife she was surprised and said "Aunt Betty, what are you doing here".
The limo then swept away.
Since the Queen's family called her Betty I always wondered what she thought of that encounter.
A couple of customers approached her and one said "Do you know you look just like the Queen?"
She replied "How very reassuring".
My wife saw her on one of the Caribbean islands - she looked like her aunt and when her limo paused beside my wife she was surprised and said "Aunt Betty, what are you doing here".
The limo then swept away.
Since the Queen's family called her Betty I always wondered what she thought of that encounter.
Grande Mastere Dreade
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if you had the British press scrutinize every fucking thing you did, you'd bolt too...
Bump-n-Grind
Get off my lawn.
guess who ...
Snaggletooth
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three deade peopel?
It was quite a bit more then that. The fight was for independence. Decorum for the monarchy is a personal choice. I'm quite certain Trump was schooled on the regal etiquette "dos" and "don't's" for meeting the monarch, he chose not to follow them. BTW - These rules aren't steadfast. The official website for the British Monarchy states "there are no obligatory codes of behavior when meeting the Queen or a member of the Royal Family". It adds: "Many people wish to observe the traditional forms." The choice is yours. The dos and don'ts for meeting the Queen
The purpose of the Declaration of Independence, was not about decorum, but rather the American Colonies independence from England. By 1774, the year leading up to the Revolutionary War, trouble was brewing in America. Parliament had been passing taxes on colonists in America. There had been the Sugar Act in 1764 the Stamp act following year, and a variety of other laws that were meant to get money from the colonists for Great Britain. The colonists did not like these laws.
Great Britain was passing these laws because of the French and Indian War, which had ended in 1763. That war, which had been fought in North America, left Great Britain with a huge debt that had to be paid. Parliament said it had fought the long and costly war to protect its American subjects from the powerful French in Canada. Parliament said it was right to tax the American colonists to help pay the bills for the war.
Most Americans disagreed. They believed that England had fought the expensive war mostly to strengthen its empire and increase its wealth, not to benefit its American subjects. Also, Parliament was elected by people living in England, and the colonists felt that lawmakers living in England could not understand the colonists' needs. The colonists felt that since they did not take part in voting for members of Parliament in England they were not represented in Parliament. So Parliament did not have the right to take their money by imposing taxes. "No taxation without representation" became the American rallying cry.
Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson are some of the prominent names associated with the fight for independence. In 1776, Paine wrote "Common Sense" in which he attacked the British monarchy and asked for freedom. In the same year, Congress approved the Declaration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson that asked for a separation from Britain.
Thomas Jefferson was born into a wealthy family, and he lived in America throughout his life. On the other hand, Paine was born in England to a low-income family. After a short, primary education, he started working. Later, Paine met Benjamin Franklin who encouraged him to go work in America. He worked as a publicist and produced a lot of controversial works such as "African Slavery in America. I believe Paine had an advantage in not being born in the colonies since he could understand the two cultures and explain it to his readers, since he was a commoner.
Paine used John Locke’s ideas and "Enlightenment" in his work Common Sense to explain the concept and role of a government. Locke argued that a government was formed by an agreement among equals. Besides, Locke argued that the people under a government retained their natural rights and had a right to rebel against an unjust government. Thomas Jefferson used John Locke’s ideas of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as natural rights in the Declaration of Independence. These ideas were based on the Enlightenment’s belief that rational decisions would guide people’s life and government.
Both Common Sense and the Declaration of Independence are an inspiration for the nations of the twenty-first century. For example, Common Sense teaches people how a government should operate. On the other hand, the Declaration of Independence is a symbol of America’s freedom. Currently, Thomas Jefferson’s words are used to justify a lot of civil rights movement in the country. Today, every law is made with the recognition that all citizens must be treated equally.
The talk earlier in this thread about the USA Oligarchy are quite relevant today. Tho video below does work, I forwarded it to where it speaks about the push against inequality and reform by the US Oligarchy in the USA today.
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Black Sox
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The Main Man
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Wow. Some people on here are real dickheads. I’m sure you know who you are. Whether you think monarchy is a bad thing, and many do in this country and others, you don’t need to dance on her grave. If some of us had behaved the same at U.S. losses, you’d be up in arms.
Bump-n-Grind
Get off my lawn.
I hadn't looked at it that way, but yeah... sortofa deadpool in a boat....
although I don't reckon they were dead at the time the photo was taken...
Cruisin Loser
Super Anarchist
I'm guessing Liz, Phil, and Uffa.
I wonder if the Ipod with his speeches that Pres. Obama gave her is up there amongst their family heirlooms with the ball that killed Adm. Nelson?
I beg your pardon, but in the US we don't have a bunch of inbred halfwits masquerading as special
people by virtue of dipping out of the very shallow end of the gene pool. Not to mention the history of the British to inflict their rapacious greed on most of the world, leaving an everlasting stain, endless turmoil and countless deaths and then shamelessly rubbing the world's nose in it to this day A pox on the British mouth breathers posing as exceptional people. Fuck 'em all. If they actually did anything meaningful without all of their money and privilege I might feel differently. The only ones of that miserable lot I have any respect for, albeit it minimal, is for Harry and his wife who might have seen the light given how Liz was a racist piece of shit. However I notice they haven't renounced their inheritance. Double fuck them all up their royal asses.
