ROADKILL666
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I have only found one and it’s a N/M45 by Morgan. I am 6’5” and I was good down below bunks and all.
Racer Cruisers for Tall People
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The Dark Knight
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just like women….
And if your woman is no compromise, then I’ll address this comment to her
Just like men
The Dark Knight
Super Anarchist
Sun Fast 40.
Plenty of headroom and comfortable like the Sun Odyssey but with a deeper keel, taller keel stepped rig and traveller in the cockpit.
Plenty of headroom and comfortable like the Sun Odyssey but with a deeper keel, taller keel stepped rig and traveller in the cockpit.
Gunny
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Slightly different angle here but how about a Swan/Baltic or even something like a Serendipity 43?
MauiPunter
Will sail for food
The N/M 45 is quite the unicorn. I still miss her on occasion.
Evan Fullerton
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I’ve built enough carbon race car parts and helped with enough blister jobs I’m sure I could do it……. Just not while working full time and paying lay days. Way back in Highschool I got to hang out at Gino Morelli’s shop as part of an internship program and that was pretty awesome to learn some of the resin infusion tricks they were using.
I think opening up some doorways, cutting bulkheads back to the ceiling level and dropping the floor to between the frames rather then sitting on top of them will make the current boat workable for her. Just need to come up with a good layup schedule to substitute for the plywood I’ll be cutting out so the deck doesn’t get too soft and the shrouds stay apart. Keel stepped mast so I don’t think it will be too difficult to replace the strength of 3in of 1/2” ply with bagged glass or carbon.
GHarring19
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J112e - I’m 6’2” and have no problems at all
I'm 6'5" and I've owned three racer-cruisers, none of which had cabin clearance to allow me to stand erect. Rather, all of them had a main cabin overhead hatch under which I could stand erect easily. That was always my criteria in buying a racer-cruiser. In looking for my first boat back in the 70s, I considered an Ericson 39B. It had 6'6" inch or 6'7" headroom.
Amadeus616
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Van De Stadt Samoa 47. Gobs of headroom. Fast Cruiser.
The title of this thread caught my eye. I'm 6'2", my son is 6'4" -- and we had to construct an option.
The Class 40 fleet began with racer-cruisers with tall-ish cabins and spacious hulls, and when the race world evolved toward super-beamy boats with wide scow-bows, the interiors got even bigger... but the class shifted toward pure race cabins with lower, narrower rooflines. I thought it would cool to keep the 4.5m beams and wide bows but shift back to a bigger cabin -- making the most of the enormous interior space. So, we got together a little group that developed a design and, now, an almost-finished shell. With floor panels, our headroom is still 6'6" throughout most of the cabin. I can once again yell at my kid to stop slouching.
Anyway, seems like this type of boat has a lot of potential for the space-seeking racer-cruiser crowd, though the deeper keel can be a limitation. Some of the older Class 40s come up for sale every year. The Pogo company still manufactures cruiser versions of the older-style hulls, but their price tag is exclusive.
The Class 40 fleet began with racer-cruisers with tall-ish cabins and spacious hulls, and when the race world evolved toward super-beamy boats with wide scow-bows, the interiors got even bigger... but the class shifted toward pure race cabins with lower, narrower rooflines. I thought it would cool to keep the 4.5m beams and wide bows but shift back to a bigger cabin -- making the most of the enormous interior space. So, we got together a little group that developed a design and, now, an almost-finished shell. With floor panels, our headroom is still 6'6" throughout most of the cabin. I can once again yell at my kid to stop slouching.
Anyway, seems like this type of boat has a lot of potential for the space-seeking racer-cruiser crowd, though the deeper keel can be a limitation. Some of the older Class 40s come up for sale every year. The Pogo company still manufactures cruiser versions of the older-style hulls, but their price tag is exclusive.
PUNISHER
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friends of mine in adelaie, south australia he is 6'8' ( i think) and they have a cataliana 40, he can walk around no probs
boxxy
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I'm 6'4" and my last boat was a bene first 36.7. Full headroom (just) for me throughout the middle of the saloon and companionway, the head had a suitably placed hatch to allow full head room when ajar, but a big duck for door frames, and the v berth only ok on one side - we slept mostly in the quarter berths which were plenty long enough.
I bought her in the Caribbean and sailed her across the Pacific to New Zealand and she performed faultlessly, and fast - we hit 200 mile days on a number of occasions. Sailed extensively on her for 5 years then bought a First 45 - fantastic headroom throughout and with a big long v berth it's perfect for me (and even faster offshore).
Good luck with the search!
I bought her in the Caribbean and sailed her across the Pacific to New Zealand and she performed faultlessly, and fast - we hit 200 mile days on a number of occasions. Sailed extensively on her for 5 years then bought a First 45 - fantastic headroom throughout and with a big long v berth it's perfect for me (and even faster offshore).
Good luck with the search!
jdubes
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This is exactly why I bought a Beneteau 36.7. I'm 6'3'' and love it. I looked a X-yachts and others in this size and range and there's really nothing new that comes close.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Ericson 38-200 yet... Has my vote for the specs he mentioned (including galley). Plus, in my opinion, better construction and performance than many of the other boats mentioned, especially in light winds and for the price. We sailed one from Mexico to French Polynesia heavily loaded for cruising and sailing conservatively in 21 days. Really fun and surprisingly comfortable boat.
some critical data missing here. Firstly, the OP included the word CRUISER. I am 196cm (6'5" to you still in the USA civil war measurement archives), and by far NOT the tallest in my sailing family. All of you short people are missing some perspective (and yes - pun intended).
Head room is important, but of equal importance is the width of side decks and passage ways (our splay ie: the space between our feet to safely manouvre whilst maintaining a distribution of weight and center of gravity), bunk length and width for what I hope are obvious reasons, work bench heights sufficient to avoid back problems and fatigue without excessive hunching and bending, table heights that are more than coffee tables, sink heights that let us actually wash up or, in the bathrooms, to have our toothbrush or razor actually above knee level, mirror heights that we can look into, toilet seat heights and room for legs without the need for co-incidal yoga, shower nozzles that can reach more than just our nipples and shower cubicles wide enough to even bend and turn, wardrobe width and height so our bloody pants aren't hanging on the floor or leave our shirts or jackets crushed up at the sides or not even fit at all, cupboards that can fit our larger shoes, seat heights that don't make us feel like we are still in second grade, winch location positions that preclude slipping discs when turning and loading, port hole positions that allow actual see through, and yes there is more but before you diminutive sailing anarchy wankers start the pile on, just remember we tall folk only want what you pygmies have now which is a safe operating and occasionally comfortable ergonomic, If I hear one more short arsed boat broker describe 6'3 or '4 as cathedral headroom I will deadset nut the prick. We have just finished an exhaustive 'tall person ergonomic 'design process and are just now embarking on the build of our boat (and will be taking luxury charters from the many many tall scandinavians and basketballers with loads of money so if you fit this category d.m. me for advanced bookings). NB: Insurance and general good taste will preclude us sailing in USA territorial waters
Happy sailing
Head room is important, but of equal importance is the width of side decks and passage ways (our splay ie: the space between our feet to safely manouvre whilst maintaining a distribution of weight and center of gravity), bunk length and width for what I hope are obvious reasons, work bench heights sufficient to avoid back problems and fatigue without excessive hunching and bending, table heights that are more than coffee tables, sink heights that let us actually wash up or, in the bathrooms, to have our toothbrush or razor actually above knee level, mirror heights that we can look into, toilet seat heights and room for legs without the need for co-incidal yoga, shower nozzles that can reach more than just our nipples and shower cubicles wide enough to even bend and turn, wardrobe width and height so our bloody pants aren't hanging on the floor or leave our shirts or jackets crushed up at the sides or not even fit at all, cupboards that can fit our larger shoes, seat heights that don't make us feel like we are still in second grade, winch location positions that preclude slipping discs when turning and loading, port hole positions that allow actual see through, and yes there is more but before you diminutive sailing anarchy wankers start the pile on, just remember we tall folk only want what you pygmies have now which is a safe operating and occasionally comfortable ergonomic, If I hear one more short arsed boat broker describe 6'3 or '4 as cathedral headroom I will deadset nut the prick. We have just finished an exhaustive 'tall person ergonomic 'design process and are just now embarking on the build of our boat (and will be taking luxury charters from the many many tall scandinavians and basketballers with loads of money so if you fit this category d.m. me for advanced bookings). NB: Insurance and general good taste will preclude us sailing in USA territorial waters
Happy sailing
MauiPunter
Will sail for food
Well, that escalated quickly....
do NOT do this. it will completely and probably dangerously change the righting angle, COG and seaworthiness of the boat. only someone short with very little idea of ramifications would suggest this,
just raising the bar
Evan Fullerton
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Done well, a slightly higher coach roof could be lighter and a higher coach roof is always going to improve the Self righting ability…… assuming the water stays on the outside.
I’m not going to take a chain saw to the coach roof any time soon but to say it’s unsafe to add 3 to 6 inches is simply not true. The added windage and surface area for breaking waves to act on is minimal relative to Dodgers and Bimini.
Bumping up the cabin a bit does not necessarily mean the adverse issues you describe. Doing the calcs for a given application is what is needed. It's not difficult to compute, depends on the specifics of the boat. Just a rough thought experiment, are you saying that if 2 or 3 larger people onboard go from sitting to standing that the boat will flip over? Cuz that's likely a similar shift in VCG that you'd get by bumping up a cabin a few inches on a 40ish foot boat. Again, specific calcs are required for a given boat.
