RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

[us7070]

"Disruptive Technology" is just another overused buzzword designed to dupe naive customers into buying shit they don't understand. It's the millennial version of "Paradigm Shift." Both terms have absolutely no meaning and are only used by marketing departments that have no clue what to say about their product or in Dilbert cartoons.

"Our boats incorporate the latest in disruptive technology to bring about a whole paradigm shift in offshore catamaran sailing."

Not sure I agree with that?? But, I could find no credible definition for Disruptive technology. Google pointed me to PopSci.com, but could not find the nugget.

sure - it's kind of a dumb term...

but hyde is somewhat wrong in saying that it applies to the relationship between the new technology and the consumer of the technology

really.., it applies to the relationship between the new technology and the existing technology

when people say Uber is "disruptive", they are referring to the fact that it is causing trouble for existing taxi companies

in the RM video, when the owner says that the GB is disruptive.., he presumably is talking about how GB is competing with, and taking business from, other more traditional expensive luxury yachts - the notion that existing luxury yachts of 60 ft or so were heavy mono hulls or cats without much performance

 

[6924]

think the owner was just being a doofus.

He's a investor not a technologist. So he does not know diddly about anything technical. And it shows

 

[Rasputin22]

We should form a special group to study disruptive tech!

 

[billy backstay]

US7070 said: When people say Uber is "disruptive", they are referring to the fact that it is causing trouble for existing taxi companies.

In that context the word makes sense and certainly definable. Without that or similar context, I got nothin.....

 

[John Drake]

And here I thought Disrupter Technology was the Romulen equivilant to a phaser.

 

[Rockett]

Well.

I think some of you dudes and dudettes. Are a bit over the horizon, spitting comments left and right.

Ofcoarse we all want to know it all.

Especially since ther involve people who are well funded. With extravagant yachts.

Yes. Lets dig in to all their faults!

Holy shit if it turns out they have good seamenship and ar good sailors? Maby losing the pole can be

pointed to a faulty detail or material..?

Who knows! Personally i dont care much. Its not my problem. Dont have a Gunboat. Will never have the possibility

to own one. Just glad no one died! Everybody is counted for. No mum has to go to a funeral...

Other stuff. Its just stuff that can ber replaced...

In my book.

They showed good seamenship by pressing the "help" Button. Before some one lost their life. Trying

to save the day. Easily done since there is significant value in those hulls.

What makes me stunned. Is the "argument" that "some" ppl with good funds.

Should pay for their rescue. In case of bad decisions?

So poor or "normal" ppl should get away with bad or stupd decisions?

Where is the line of judgment in that?

So, how about all racingboats that Needs rescue? Pay?

Fisher an that has to work? Although should stay ashore when weather is a bit unsure? Pay if it goes bad?

Predicted fair weather can tur really shit. But ofcoarse one should pay since all forumsailors who know the situation

Better than anyone else! Says it was...

Just going out at Sea for Fun. Is stupid in so many levels.

But freaking fun!

Have fun sailing! And som of u. Use a condom!

 

[slip knot]

I'll say it again: if they were gagged because of legal insurance issues, they would be properly gagged, not selective/pretend gagged. It's been said by people who would know that PJ is talking freely about it to prospective buyers, and to current owners. I wouldn't be surprised if PJ is also talking to SA and other industry persons who are sympathetic (we could be told, and would be if this was responsible media). The crew or some of them have talked to Soma and co.

So all of those people can be asked about what they've been told and while they can stay mum for now, they can be deposed if it goes that way. Their emails discovered. The story Clean has written but not published dug out and read. And so on.

So it's tiresome to say that the silence is reasonable for that reason.

I think GB is silent because the calculation is that openness will hurt more than silence on a PR/commercial level. They're probably wrong, and asking a bunch of atheists to pray and then pissing their pants makes them look like twats, but it's still the most likely explanation.

GB's maths will always be about the bottom line. Even if the guts of the story is less about the boat, and more about the owner, an assessment may have been made that fewer sales will be lost by this bizarre silence than by laying blame on a rich guy. I can imagine that their potential owners might turn back to buying an Outremer or a chopper or pay to get walked up Everest or something if they start seeing that even GB doesn't see them as "special", "discerning", and part of that "family" and more like vain, moneyed suckers, who can't actually sail the boats they buy.

SA's silence is in a different category of course. This isn't a commercial metric it's an existential one about whether it's journalism or not. And it's not even pretending to report, or subscribe to journalism ethics 101. So who can trust it now in any postiive comments about any advertiser on the site? Or potential advertiser?' At least we can still trust it to mock backyarders and poor boaties who have cockups, which is a nice synergy with the awful, elitist vibe of the GB family, where "special" means "rich".

It's not rocket science. Gunboat is a bit of an oddity. The bulk of us that frequent SA aren't, and will never be Gunboat customers. Pissing us off is pretty much harmless, however any story that makes them look bad is a potential bomb on the interwebs to real buyers. Clean and Ed are happy little whores to maintain the status quo their sponsors dictate.

The fact that GB are big advertisers here would indicate that they feel it is a good investment to have a presence here. I would take that to mean they see a market to sell a few boats.

 

[SCANAS]

Rich ppl read SA too!

 

[NoStrings]

Well.

I think some of you dudes and dudettes. Are a bit over the horizon, spitting comments left and right.

Ofcoarse we all want to know it all.

Especially since ther involve people who are well funded. With extravagant yachts.

Yes. Lets dig in to all their faults!

Holy shit if it turns out they have good seamenship and ar good sailors? Maby losing the pole can be

pointed to a faulty detail or material..?

Who knows! Personally i dont care much. Its not my problem. Dont have a Gunboat. Will never have the possibility

to own one. Just glad no one died! Everybody is counted for. No mum has to go to a funeral...

Other stuff. Its just stuff that can ber replaced...

In my book.

They showed good seamenship by pressing the "help" Button. Before some one lost their life. Trying

to save the day. Easily done since there is significant value in those hulls.

What makes me stunned. Is the "argument" that "some" ppl with good funds.

Should pay for their rescue. In case of bad decisions?

So poor or "normal" ppl should get away with bad or stupd decisions?

Where is the line of judgment in that?

So, how about all racingboats that Needs rescue? Pay?

Fisher an that has to work? Although should stay ashore when weather is a bit unsure? Pay if it goes bad?

Predicted fair weather can tur really shit. But ofcoarse one should pay since all forumsailors who know the situation

Better than anyone else! Says it was...

Just going out at Sea for Fun. Is stupid in so many levels.

But freaking fun!

Have fun sailing! And som of u. Use a condom!

Being from Sweden, you shouldn't have a huge problem posting pics of Swedish tits. You need to do this to make up for the crappy Google translation of whatever the fuck you wrote.

 

[Boo-Yah]

US7070 said: When people say Uber is "disruptive", they are referring to the fact that it is causing trouble for existing taxi companies.

In that context the word makes sense and certainly definable. Without that or similar context, I got nothin.....

eMail was disruptive to FedEx... they got over it when they learned to ship women's fashion....

In our sailing world the planing hulls are the closest thing to disruptive? Some thought the wing keel might be, but at the end of the day the winged keel was nothing more than a rule tweak. Fiberglass was likely disruptive to the wood boat building industry. At $X Million... Gunboat has little chance of disrupting anything. Whatever traction they may have been making will be destroyed by the mods and arms race with mods to the likes of Phaedo. High end yachts are a small niche. Gunboat is now in a one off, tiny high expense niche.

 

[floater]

Just off the phone with pro skipper of Rainmaker; it will take a day or two, but we will get the story out as soon as we can.

Monday?

bump.
FWIW - "will have it on Monday" is a long standing joke in AC Anarchy.

Clean went on a junket to NZ, and got aboard ETNZ's AC72 - video roiling. Footage promised by Clean on Monday...

That said, his trip was not a complete waste. He was able to produce an advertorial for a prominent sailmaker in NZ.

So, although the "inside scoop" has yet to see daylight, the advertorial did in fact make it to the "Anarchy" front page.

 

[DryArmour]

Still no sign of a 55' floating box in the Atlantic? That seems crazy to me...

 

[PeterHuston]

Still no sign of a 55' floating box in the Atlantic? That seems crazy to me...

Maybe it pulled an unsinkable Titanic and sank.

 

[Presuming Ed]

Lithium batteries caught fire?

 

[Ishmael]

Maybe it was scuttled so nobody ever finds out the awful truth. Get ready for all the principals to have strange fatal accidents in the near future.

See what kind of believable rubbish we can come up with when everybody shuts the fuck up?

 

[dacarls]

Hey- we have had interminable discussions on "Disruptive Technology" right here on SA.

What do you think all of the crap put out about hydrofoils ruining sailing?

LEGIONS of Naysayer Knownothings, and few converts, particularly in the good 'ol USA.

Dogbert certainly recognizes DT when he sees it. Don't U?

 

[Ed Lada]

Maybe it was scuttled so nobody ever finds out the awful truth. Get ready for all the principals to have strange fatal accidents in the near future.

See what kind of believable rubbish we can come up with when everybody shuts the fuck up?

Rubbish???? Sounds perfectly plausible to me.

 

[TwoLegged]

Maybe it was scuttled so nobody ever finds out the awful truth. Get ready for all the principals to have strange fatal accidents in the near future.

See what kind of believable rubbish we can come up with when everybody shuts the fuck up?

Rubbish???? Sounds perfectly plausible to me.

Didn't all this happen somewhere near the Bermuda Triangle?

 

[kent_island_sailor]

Clean - you are doing your friends no favors. I am 100% sure the bullshitmachine will generate worse ideas than what really happened.

I could speculate on how easy it would have been to make the boat findable if anyone actually wanted to see it again

 

[us7070]

Clean - you are doing your friends no favors. I am 100% sure the bullshitmachine will generate worse ideas than what really happened.

I could speculate on how easy it would have been to make the boat findable if anyone actually wanted to see it again

so suppose someone gave clean an account of the incident.., and then a little while later.., before clean had published the account, he contacted clean and asked him not to publish it. - at least not now.

are you saying clean should publish it anyway?

if i were clean, i would agree to the request - i have no idea if there are any legal issues, but it wouldn't matter - i would agree to the request.