RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

[us7070]

Gee us7070 this thread ain't ever going to die if you keep posting pictures like that.

really - Loop should get credit.., i never would have found it

but he posted it in the thread that nobody is reading!

 

[Canal Bottom]

in the other thread, SA member Loop posted links to pictures taken from the freighter - scroll down for link to higher res pictures

good find Loop!

He should get some swag!

http://www.crowley.com/News-and-Media/Press-Releases/Crowley-Managed-Ocean-Crescent-Provides-At-Sea-Assistance-to-Ill-Fated-Catamaran

rm.JPG

Most definitely should be paid something.... What is that tubular black thingy laying on the front porch in 40 knot true and how high were the waves again?

 

[us7070]

in the other thread, SA member Loop posted links to pictures taken from the freighter - scroll down for link to higher res pictures

good find Loop!

He should get some swag!

http://www.crowley.com/News-and-Media/Press-Releases/Crowley-Managed-Ocean-Crescent-Provides-At-Sea-Assistance-to-Ill-Fated-Catamaran

rm.JPG

Most definitely should be paid something.... What is that tubular black thingy laying on the front porch in 40 knot true and how high were the waves again?

that's the longeron

the account from the ship on that link says waves up to 6m

 

[Canal Bottom]

in the other thread, SA member Loop posted links to pictures taken from the freighter - scroll down for link to higher res pictures

good find Loop!

He should get some swag!

http://www.crowley.com/News-and-Media/Press-Releases/Crowley-Managed-Ocean-Crescent-Provides-At-Sea-Assistance-to-Ill-Fated-Catamaran

rm.JPG

Most definitely should be paid something.... What is that tubular black thingy laying on the front porch in 40 knot true and how high were the waves again?

that's the longeron

the account from the ship on that link says waves up to 6m

The second shorter fatter tubular black thingy...the bit just laying there that is not in any brochure... While we are at it at the risk of being labeled a cunt.. It looks a little like thrust from the port engine too?

 

[Ishmael]

in the other thread, SA member Loop posted links to pictures taken from the freighter - scroll down for link to higher res pictures

good find Loop!

He should get some swag!

http://www.crowley.com/News-and-Media/Press-Releases/Crowley-Managed-Ocean-Crescent-Provides-At-Sea-Assistance-to-Ill-Fated-Catamaran

rm.JPG

Most definitely should be paid something.... What is that tubular black thingy laying on the front porch in 40 knot true and how high were the waves again?

that's the longeron

the account from the ship on that link says waves up to 6m

The second shorter fatter tubular black thingy...the bit just laying there that is not in any brochure... While we are at it at the risk of being labeled a cunt.. It looks a little like thrust from the port engine too?

Looks like a fender.

 

[Canal Bottom]

So at what wind and sea state would a fender not just lay on a trampoline?

 

[us7070]

So at what wind and sea state would a fender not just lay on a trampoline?

if you are using the presence of the fender to cast doubt on their account of the squall - i would hold off

they probably put the fender out about the time they were approaching the ship - not at the height of the squall

i think they CB said conditions had moderated bythen

 

[Ishmael]

So at what wind and sea state would a fender not just lay on a trampoline?

Well, I'm guessing it's tied on, and if you look at the whole photo on the Crowley link, you can see the calm slick from the ship which is protecting the cat.

 

[MR.CLEAN]

that's the longeron

the account from the ship on that link says waves up to 6m

Cue RKoch: "There's no way those are 6m waves, just look at the photo! We had the kite up in that shit in the IOR days!"

 

[soliton]

that's the longeron

the account from the ship on that link says waves up to 6m

Cue RKoch: "There's no way those are 6m waves, just look at the photo! We had the kite up in that shit in the IOR days!"

If the highest waves are 6m, the significant wave height would be around 4m with the average wave heights around 2-3m. Oceanography 101.

You must have Asberger's (sic).

 

[ProaSailor]

in the other thread, SA member Loop posted links to pictures taken from the freighter - scroll down for link to higher res pictures

good find Loop!

He should get some swag!

http://www.crowley.com/News-and-Media/Press-Releases/Crowley-Managed-Ocean-Crescent-Provides-At-Sea-Assistance-to-Ill-Fated-Catamaran

rm.JPG

Wow. Amazing pics of Rainmaker. Love the wide view of the helo:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwaybuyeryfrtdb/IMG_0553.jpg?dl=0

Here it is cropped:

 

[~HHN92~]

^^ FORA and MORC too...

No matter the era I have never liked a boat with a ton of exposed glass, as this case points out. The hulls, etc. look totally seaworthy, but the blown-own glass along with the damaged hatches make abandonment necessary.

Get the kite up on deck...

 

[205guy]

As an aside, one lesson we can start thinking about is how do you get rid of a failed rig that has hydraulic systems incorporated, without spreading the oil all over the boat?

I've been wondering about that since reading about how they had to cut the lines, guaranteeing them or the decks being doused in oil. Seems like there should be some sort of self-sealing automatic cut-off or breakaway fixtures somewhere near the mast, with a manual override (that says "no step").

 

[MR.CLEAN]

If the highest waves are 6m, the significant wave height would be around 4m with the average wave heights around 2-3m. Oceanography 101.

Was someone talking about sig or avg wave height?

 

[ProaSailor]

in the other thread, SA member Loop posted links to pictures taken from the freighter - scroll down for link to higher res pictures

good find Loop!

He should get some swag!

http://www.crowley.com/News-and-Media/Press-Releases/Crowley-Managed-Ocean-Crescent-Provides-At-Sea-Assistance-to-Ill-Fated-Catamaran

rm.JPG

Damage is to port side, where the mast fell down, to leeward? Consistent with theory of being on starboard tack when peak of storm passed and wind shifted ninety degrees, from SW (broad reach) to NW (aft?).

 

[soliton]

If the highest waves are 6m, the significant wave height would be around 4m with the average wave heights around 2-3m. Oceanography 101.

Was someone talking about sig or avg wave height?

Since I grew up in the IOR days, there's no way we had a kite up in the weather shown about 6 posts up. We would have blown them all out...great days indeed. I was just making the point that first, people overestimate wind/waves/penis size etc. Also, that the highest waves are just that, the average waves are half that.

 

[J/120]

As an aside, one lesson we can start thinking about is how do you get rid of a failed rig that has hydraulic systems incorporated, without spreading the oil all over the boat?

I've been wondering about that since reading about how they had to cut the lines, guaranteeing them or the decks being doused in oil. Seems like there should be some sort of self-sealing automatic cut-off or breakaway fixtures somewhere near the mast, with a manual override (that says "no step").

Curious what you think. Any cut off or breakaway will still have pressurized lines with a deck stepper. Maybe an 'oh shit' button that dumps all fluid into the reservoirs allowing for less fluid when you cut?

 

[Ishmael]

As an aside, one lesson we can start thinking about is how do you get rid of a failed rig that has hydraulic systems incorporated, without spreading the oil all over the boat?

I've been wondering about that since reading about how they had to cut the lines, guaranteeing them or the decks being doused in oil. Seems like there should be some sort of self-sealing automatic cut-off or breakaway fixtures somewhere near the mast, with a manual override (that says "no step").

Curious what you think. Any cut off or breakaway will still have pressurized lines with a deck stepper. Maybe an 'oh shit' button that dumps all fluid into the reservoirs allowing for less fluid when you cut?

And a pair of red shoes you can click together and be back in Kansas.

 

[J/120]

As an aside, one lesson we can start thinking about is how do you get rid of a failed rig that has hydraulic systems incorporated, without spreading the oil all over the boat?

I've been wondering about that since reading about how they had to cut the lines, guaranteeing them or the decks being doused in oil. Seems like there should be some sort of self-sealing automatic cut-off or breakaway fixtures somewhere near the mast, with a manual override (that says "no step").

Curious what you think. Any cut off or breakaway will still have pressurized lines with a deck stepper. Maybe an 'oh shit' button that dumps all fluid into the reservoirs allowing for less fluid when you cut?

And a pair of red shoes you can click together and be back in Kansas.

If the lines are connected and pressurized, what's the back to Kansas problem? An all being release?

 

[Boo-Yah]

Sometimes when it was blowing 30 we did put the kites up and waited a bit for God to take them down, so we could repeat it again.....