RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE
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Albatros
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testaccording to the interview, they collided with the freighter on the side that is shown in the pic ... no trace to be seen, wow, I want some of that scratchproof stuff too on my 5ktsb B)Damage is to port side, where the mast fell down, to leeward? Consistent with theory of being on starboard tack when peak of storm passed and wind shifted ninety degrees, from SW (broad reach) to NW (aft?).in the other thread, SA member Loop posted links to pictures taken from the freighter - scroll down for link to higher res pictures
good find Loop!
He should get some swag!
http://www.crowley.com/News-and-Media/Press-Releases/Crowley-Managed-Ocean-Crescent-Provides-At-Sea-Assistance-to-Ill-Fated-Catamaran
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bodega87
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It very well could be for someone. Albeit the rigger, the builder, or the boat yard......someones going down for this. An "act of nature" only works in one direction with insurance companies. But who really cares, let the insurance companies fight it out.....the owner will be one to his next hobby soon enough.
Albatros
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also interesting that if one goes to the Crowley link nothing is mentioned about a collision, weird, no ? if only for the dramatic aspect that one would shuuuurrelly been mentioned on a basically promotional interwebs page, no ?testaccording to the interview, they collided with the freighter on the side that is shown in the pic ... no trace to be seen, wow, I want some of that scratchproof stuff too on my 5ktsb B)Damage is to port side, where the mast fell down, to leeward? Consistent with theory of being on starboard tack when peak of storm passed and wind shifted ninety degrees, from SW (broad reach) to NW (aft?).in the other thread, SA member Loop posted links to pictures taken from the freighter - scroll down for link to higher res pictures
good find Loop!
He should get some swag!
http://www.crowley.com/News-and-Media/Press-Releases/Crowley-Managed-Ocean-Crescent-Provides-At-Sea-Assistance-to-Ill-Fated-Catamaran
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bullshit call, embellishment and dramatisation.
Its possible that the shipping company became aware of the story about a collision and made the web release with pictures to set the record straight...also interesting that if one goes to the Crowley link nothing is mentioned about a collision, weird, no ? if only for the dramatic aspect that one would shuuuurrelly been mentioned on a basically promotional interwebs page, no ?testaccording to the interview, they collided with the freighter on the side that is shown in the pic ... no trace to be seen, wow, I want some of that scratchproof stuff too on my 5ktsb B)Damage is to port side, where the mast fell down, to leeward? Consistent with theory of being on starboard tack when peak of storm passed and wind shifted ninety degrees, from SW (broad reach) to NW (aft?).in the other thread, SA member Loop posted links to pictures taken from the freighter - scroll down for link to higher res pictures
good find Loop!
He should get some swag!
http://www.crowley.com/News-and-Media/Press-Releases/Crowley-Managed-Ocean-Crescent-Provides-At-Sea-Assistance-to-Ill-Fated-Catamaran
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bullshit call, embellishment and dramatisation.
jzk
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More of a problem than had they been able to close. They certainly don't need to be "water tight." I also suspect that something could be put in place to help block the water. Iike you are saying, no real need to abandon over this.
Edith Bicknell
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looking at that photo, its h
eventually freeing up the other prop. I guess the issue is with the bay windows gone, and no way to keep water
out of the bunks, It was no too risky. Also I didnt recall them mentioning they had a bucket on board.
looking at that photo, its hard to believe they couldnt use the one good engine and make some reasonable way.
eventually freeing up the other prop. I guess the issue is with the bay windows gone, and no way to keep water
out of the bunks, It was no too risky. Also I didnt recall them mentioning they had a bucket on board.
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zzrider
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Maybe their disruptive electro-hydraulic computerized robotic bucket was damaged by water as well.
If I botched the approach and crushed the hull of a 2 million dollar boat that then sank I would post it on the web right away.also interesting that if one goes to the Crowley link nothing is mentioned about a collision, weird, no ? if only for the dramatic aspect that one would shuuuurrelly been mentioned on a basically promotional interwebs page, no ?testicleaccording to the interview, they collided with the freighter on the side that is shown in the pic ... no trace to be seen, wow, I want some of that scratchproof stuff too on my 5ktsb B)Damage is to port side, where the mast fell down, to leeward? Consistent with theory of being on starboard tack when peak of storm passed and wind shifted ninety degrees, from SW (broad reach) to NW (aft?).in the other thread, SA member Loop posted links to pictures taken from the freighter - scroll down for link to higher res pictures
good find Loop!
He should get some swag!
http://www.crowley.com/News-and-Media/Press-Releases/Crowley-Managed-Ocean-Crescent-Provides-At-Sea-Assistance-to-Ill-Fated-Catamaran
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bullshit call, embellishment and dramatisation.
Edith Bicknell
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Ship dosnt have any liability.
If the disruptive guys ask to be taken off, the sailboat becomes irrelevant.
Abandoned
If the disruptive guys ask to be taken off, the sailboat becomes irrelevant.
Abandoned
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If I botched the approach and crushed the hull of a 2 million dollar boat that then sank I would post it on the web right away.also interesting that if one goes to the Crowley link nothing is mentioned about a collision, weird, no ? if only for the dramatic aspect that one would shuuuurrelly been mentioned on a basically promotional interwebs page, no ?testicleaccording to the interview, they collided with the freighter on the side that is shown in the pic ... no trace to be seen, wow, I want some of that scratchproof stuff too on my 5ktsb B)Damage is to port side, where the mast fell down, to leeward? Consistent with theory of being on starboard tack when peak of storm passed and wind shifted ninety degrees, from SW (broad reach) to NW (aft?).
bullshit call, embellishment and dramatisation.
or, maybe the photo was taken _before_ the contact....
Albatros
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in the SA account, there is another wee little detail that is weird, to say the least .... you have this condomaran drifting and showing its' starboard side to the wind, next you have this ship positioning itself on that same starboard side, but when things go ape, the big (relatively speaking) ship makes a turn to port ?????? sort of like : here I was driving on the third lane, a moron comes up on second lane and in order to avoid me he turns up straight towards me.
have no bone in this fight, could NOT care less, am just calling the way I seez it and if that is wrong, no probs either
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Canal Bottom
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also interesting that if one goes to the Crowley link nothing is mentioned about a collision, weird, no ? if only for the dramatic aspect that one would shuuuurrelly been mentioned on a basically promotional interwebs page, no ?testaccording to the interview, they collided with the freighter on the side that is shown in the pic ... no trace to be seen, wow, I want some of that scratchproof stuff too on my 5ktsb B)Damage is to port side, where the mast fell down, to leeward? Consistent with theory of being on starboard tack when peak of storm passed and wind shifted ninety degrees, from SW (broad reach) to NW (aft?).in the other thread, SA member Loop posted links to pictures taken from the freighter - scroll down for link to higher res pictures
good find Loop!
He should get some swag!
http://www.crowley.com/News-and-Media/Press-Releases/Crowley-Managed-Ocean-Crescent-Provides-At-Sea-Assistance-to-Ill-Fated-Catamaran
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bullshit call, embellishment and dramatisation.
When small boats come along side large boats in open water they rub. That is the standard of care for the safest transfer of passengers. Only to the naive or inexperienced would call the determined and communicated action of both boats a collision. Since the earliest days of the admiralty small boats have been coming along side large vessels at sea. Note the design drawings of the small transfer boat below...
Next time the USCG boards you accuse them of causing a collision... see where that gets you. In this case Rainmaker was not fully prepared or equipped for the normal transfer of passengers at sea.
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Canal Bottom
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The smaller boat had the responsibility to stay clear and manage its own safety in the long standing practice of transferring passengers at sea. The rules of the road here were written long before the "disruptive technology" light bulb was even conceived...
Edith Bicknell
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I think the chances of us seeing episode no 3 are getting pretty slim. CB is getting disected. PJ is probably crying again but this time not with joy and in a fetal position. The Disruptive Owner can't be happy. The only positive thing said was by that douche on a LIS delivery that could only muster 'Jon looked around and paid attention' while on watch. Mr Clean has gone silent. We may be near the end.
I wouldn't expect a pleasureboat to usually prethink a method of transferring people to another vessel offshore. Usually it's a last result action.also interesting that if one goes to the Crowley link nothing is mentioned about a collision, weird, no ? if only for the dramatic aspect that one would shuuuurrelly been mentioned on a basically promotional interwebs page, no ?testaccording to the interview, they collided with the freighter on the side that is shown in the pic ... no trace to be seen, wow, I want some of that scratchproof stuff too on my 5ktsb B)Damage is to port side, where the mast fell down, to leeward? Consistent with theory of being on starboard tack when peak of storm passed and wind shifted ninety degrees, from SW (broad reach) to NW (aft?).in the other thread, SA member Loop posted links to pictures taken from the freighter - scroll down for link to higher res pictures
good find Loop!
He should get some swag!
http://www.crowley.com/News-and-Media/Press-Releases/Crowley-Managed-Ocean-Crescent-Provides-At-Sea-Assistance-to-Ill-Fated-Catamaran
rm.JPG
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bullshit call, embellishment and dramatisation.
When small boats come along side large boats in open water they rub. That is the standard of care for the safest transfer of passengers. Only to the naive or inexperienced would call the determined and communicated action of both boats a collision. Since the earliest days of the admiralty small boats have been coming along side large vessels at sea. Note the design drawings of the small transfer boat below...
Next time the USCG boards you accuse them of causing a collision... see where that gets you. In this case Rainmaker was not fully prepared or equipped for the normal transfer of passengers at sea.
John Drake
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All that's left are the lawsuits.
