RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE
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Canal Bottom
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Good Luck with that. You have a NY US Documented Vessel, owned by an LLC out of Delaware, operated by a licensed captain. The only place this would go is admiralty court where no fools prevail. The Captain has already declared on more than one occasion that a massive weather even hit them. No one was injured.. So that basically lets Gunboat International off the hook. Unless some of the marketing claims are actually in the contract. Maybe the insurance company refuses to pay based on some claim the boat was not insured to do whatever they were doing. Maybe sailing outside of covered waters or without the operators aboard detailed in the policy. Otherwise a new or even better than new boat was damaged and destroyed by a covered weather event and the insurer will have to pay the covered amounts in the policy. In all likelihood the captain and owner will have to report the claim and loss on any future insurance applications for some time.
kent_island_sailor
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Clean,
Well played. You are serializing this across what - maybe a week - and keeping everyone tuned in and coming back for more. Good for the hit counts for sure. I am sure you will catch a few people out - or maybe more than a few - that come up with theory A only to find out B or C happened B)
Now if you honestly want us to think it hasn't been all typed up ages ago .... :lol: :lol:
Well played. You are serializing this across what - maybe a week - and keeping everyone tuned in and coming back for more. Good for the hit counts for sure. I am sure you will catch a few people out - or maybe more than a few - that come up with theory A only to find out B or C happened B)
Now if you honestly want us to think it hasn't been all typed up ages ago .... :lol: :lol:
surfsailor
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mad
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I'm just glad It gets posted here, saves me wading through the Ad infested front page.
NoStrings
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Clean might not like the thrashing his friend is taking, but he's largely responsible for it. Had he actually written and released the thing in a timely manner his buddy might have been saved a world of grief. It isn't like SA (and a lot of pilots forums) are renknown for their quality of mercy.
Edith Bicknell
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+1 Rainmaker was the existing name of the Swan 40 he bought from a retired airline pilot and renowned local sailor. I don't find it disruptive at all to keep someone else's boat name.
jzk
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Well you can steer with the tillers....http://www.yachtingworld.com/video/boat-tests/broadblue-rapier-550-video-47#Rapier 550 "The future of performance cruising"Brilliant. Go away to sea, and sit a leather-covered chair just like the one at your executive desk and in your executive car. Wankers.Also quite an interesting layout. Better for sail management, but imagine the shit storm when this rig fails. I'm not a cat guy; however, i'm thinking that keeping the rig on the outside might be a decent idea.
What boat is in that picture, Wafi?
http://www.broadblue.com/rapier550/
Review here. How the hell do you trim the sails in one of these?
Catalina 36
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There is likely almost as much tradition in keeping the boat name as renaming it.
If you want to retain the name you should rename the boat before selling. After the last guy I sold a boat to kept my boat name, I'll de-name before I sell again since I'd most likely want to use the the name for my next boat.
Pertinacious Tom
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When I get done using a winch, I squirt it with a hose to get the salt off.Well you can steer with the tillers....http://www.yachtingworld.com/video/boat-tests/broadblue-rapier-550-video-47#Rapier 550 "The future of performance cruising"Brilliant. Go away to sea, and sit a leather-covered chair just like the one at your executive desk and in your executive car. Wankers.Also quite an interesting layout. Better for sail management, but imagine the shit storm when this rig fails. I'm not a cat guy; however, i'm thinking that keeping the rig on the outside might be a decent idea.
What boat is in that picture, Wafi?
http://www.broadblue.com/rapier550/
Review here. How the hell do you trim the sails in one of these?
Looks like I'd be pretty disruptive in the cabins of these fast cats.
floater
Super Duper Anarchist
Assuming it's worth a million - I wonder how many sailors would volunteer to bring her home?
It's perhaps worth noting that the professional captain would gain nothing by bringing her back. He reportedly already has another job.
If it was your own boat - different story.
Given the owner was happy to bail - everybody goes. Makes sense. Just a (very nice) piece of plastic.
It's perhaps worth noting that the professional captain would gain nothing by bringing her back. He reportedly already has another job.
If it was your own boat - different story.
Given the owner was happy to bail - everybody goes. Makes sense. Just a (very nice) piece of plastic.
Training Wheels
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I don't like second guessing anyone, because I wasn't there. I really don't want to get involved in this thing. The main thing is everyone is safe. BUT, lose the mast, no,water in the hulls, and 10 - 15 minutes later they're calling mayday?
Well, they also ran over the jib sheets fouling the prop, and saltwater wiped out the disruptive technology and rendered the mood lighting inoperative. Clearly this was an abandon ship situation. Could YOU live in a condo w/o mood lighting? The horror!
NoStrings, I hate to burst your bubble, but I don't think that CB is feeling any grief over what is said here. Hiis computer is still on Rainmaker. He doesn't give a shit what any of you think or speculate about this event. He gave the interview as an avenue to get the story out to his friends and family. They will not question his version of what happened because they know him. He has processed it, learned a lot, and moved on. All of his friends in the sailing community have been very supportive, particularly the GunBoat family. So carry on with all of the babble knowing that he is sailing and feeling the salt spray while you all are glued to your computers waiting for Clean to release part three.
floater
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Another poster on here wrote from his "home" - a big CW Atlantic cat.overlay said:Yes, you've nailed their attitude perfectly.
Totally selfish, couldn't give a rats if someone runs into the mess and dies.
Couldn't give a rats if this episode is another statistic for insurers to jack up rates for every multi owner. (tried getting trimaran insurance in OZ?)
Couldn't give a rats if authorities add this to the list of reasons to increase regulation for all of us.
Couldn't give a rats if this happened in the first place, as they were loaded to the gills with squealing for help gear but iill-prepared in the repair and management department. (no plan B )
And had no reason to be out there in winter other than the totally selfish " owner wants to go for jolly"
Gun Boat and the "HIGHLY EXPERIENCED PRO"
I guess he wouldn't be willing to let go so readily.
So, no argument from me. The GB owner wanted to be elsewhere - pronto. Screw the boat. Screw GB. Etc.
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Pretty rich putting a piece on the front page about people "deserving to die" for calling in a rescue on an ill advised journey.
Is this all just about advertising clicks? If so, its pretty low.
The ONLY things that separate the Sedona and Rainmaker incidents are several million dollars and a pro crew.
Is this all just about advertising clicks? If so, its pretty low.
The ONLY things that separate the Sedona and Rainmaker incidents are several million dollars and a pro crew.
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Maltese52
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Jaybird,I'm glad your boyfriend CB has learned from his mistakes and is on to his next project feeling the breeze in his face and judging by your comments something else from the rear.....
From personal experience I can tell you that when you get into the circle of working for these wealthy clients as a captain it takes a major screw up to get blacklisted.... (I'm talking like trying to bone the owners daughter or something). Saving the owner and his family's ass, no matter the cause or urgency, only probably gets you a pay raise in that world. What I'm getting at is that this doesn't mean that his continued employment should be viewed as some badge of honor or undeniable proof that his choices were all the right ones. It just means that he's got a tight relationship to the GB community and knows how to deal with the wealthy clientele they attract.... I agree a lot of the commentary about this whole episode has been overhyped and sometimes mean spirited but that is what SA is about so get over it. No need to play the knight in shining armor...
A lot here to learn from and it all starts from decision to leave port in forecast conditions and ends with reasons for leaving the ship without at least giving self rescue a respectable try... Just sayin....
