RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

joneisberg

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The boat was sighted by a ship a few weeks ago as it passed by, but that's the last time she was sighted.
Ahhh, thanks, I had missed that...

Sure would be interesting to see that pic... :) She must have really been put thru the wringer, if the coachroof was "gone"...

If a storm is unavoidable, safety is derived from the ability to surf sideways. With daggerboards up, the round bottom hulls will skate sideways along waves, and the long high bows offer tremendous reserve buoyancy. We believe mega catamarans are the safest platform for surviving the worst weather.
 
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TimFordi550#87

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None of that nasty plumbum stuff, hull made of Corecell/CF/e-glass/epoxy layup...interior made of carbon/Divynicell foam composite panels, etc etc., can anyone explain to me why there's a chance in hell this thing would actually sink?

At the very least, I'm thinking neutral buoyancy and air pockets aplenty to keep significant parts and bits above the waterline.

 
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kent_island_sailor

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Usually you would have to break it up and the parts with the engines would sink.

None of that nasty plumbum stuff, hull made of Corecell/CF/e-glass/epoxy layup...interior made of carbon/Divynicell foam composite panels, etc etc., can anyone explain to me why there's a chance in hell this thing would actually sink?

Just call me stupid....
 

Wess

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If you mean why not recovered - good luck finding it and I doubt at this stage its financially prudent.

If you mean why did they get off - because they are intelligent.

But no desire to respond to the shit slinging. Just stating the facts. The structure was right side up, intact, and floating after some pretty significant weather had come through. And yes, as you point out, the crew was safe.

 

RKoch

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None of that nasty plumbum stuff, hull made of Corecell/CF/e-glass/epoxy layup...interior made of carbon/Divynicell foam composite panels, etc etc., can anyone explain to me why there's a chance in hell this thing would actually sink?

At the very least, I'm thinking neutral buoyancy and air pockets aplenty to keep significant parts and bits above the waterline.
You would think. However, there's still a couple engines, battery bank, galley stove (presumably with oven), and other heavy stuff aboard. I don't think "unsinkable" means forever.
 

kent_island_sailor

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Back in the day the ones I worked on litterally would not sink absent breaking into pieces.

None of that nasty plumbum stuff, hull made of Corecell/CF/e-glass/epoxy layup...interior made of carbon/Divynicell foam composite panels, etc etc., can anyone explain to me why there's a chance in hell this thing would actually sink?

At the very least, I'm thinking neutral buoyancy and air pockets aplenty to keep significant parts and bits above the waterline.
You would think. However, there's still a couple engines, battery bank, galley stove (presumably with oven), and other heavy stuff aboard. I don't think "unsinkable" means forever.
 

TimFordi550#87

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No, I meant even taking the engine(s) and batteries and sundry appliances into consideration. 55 feet (x 2) of foam is a helluva lot of flotation.

Seems you'd need to chain it to a Seawolf Class and drag it underwater....

 
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joneisberg

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Of course she had been "thru a wringer." Heck of a series of storms swept through there. But yet, there it was, structure intact, right side up, still floating.
Probably just me, but I would consider the "coachroof" - or whatever else that greenhouse might be called - to be a significant component of RAINMAKER's "structure"... Without it, that Ultimate Couples Globe Girdler is nothing but an overgrown beach cat...

On the other hand, after supposedly experiencing 3 capsizes in in the same series of storms, that piece of shit Alberg 35 ANGEL was still afloat out there as well after 66 days...

With her coachroof still intact, no less...

:)

 

Whitebread117

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That's because an alberg 35 is a bluewater boat and Rainmaker is a (expensive example of a) production boat. Its a miracle it made it out of the sound, much less through the stream :)

 

Wess

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You are right of course. Its an absolutely critical piece of kit to avoid getting wet or a sunburn as you launch the dinghy for offshore rescue/transfer.

I am absolutely stunned it didn't sink immediately upon loss of the coachroof.

End sarcasm alert.

 

DDW

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No, I meant even taking the engine(s) and batteries and sundry appliances into consideration. 55 feet (x 2) of foam is a helluva lot of flotation.
55 feet (x2) of laminate is a hell of a lot of weight too. These things do seem float, but not by much. The field laminate will weigh something like 2 lbs/sq ft in a boat like that, vs. water at about 5. But the laminate is probably less than half the weight so maybe it floats 4/5 submerged. That is about what cored monohulls do after they lose their keel and roll over.

 

Raked Aft\\

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Just got off the phone w a credible underwriter of a reputable ins co who knows the story.

He does a lot of business w the broker on RM. [no names please...]

Word is the boat was spotted & towed to port by a fishing trawler in tact. (relatively speaking)

The fishing Co. did not claim salvage for some unknown reason.

The Ins. Co and owner are negotiating settlement.

That's all the info i could drill out of him.

Hoping more details come to light soon... Clean?

 

us7070

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Well, that probably just disrupted the owner's day.

He probably spit his chai latte all over the board room table when he got the news.
from an insurance point of view, the boat is almost certainly totaled, so for the owner it probably doesn't make any difference

 



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