Rape trial dropped because attacks on the accuser endanger her health?

[Goodvibes]

and ... it does not have to be said, that the percentage of rapes reported will fall rapidly from today.

 

[Ease the sheet.]

And achieved their objective.

I find it pathetic that some see this as a win.

A win for what?

 

[Ease the sheet.]

and ... it does not have to be said, that the percentage of rapes reported will fall rapidly from today.

Yes.

And some will applaud that.

 

[tp#12]

The ACT Prosecutor was careful to say that he believes the likelihood of conviction to still be worth pursuing otherwise

He has the facts of the matter, unlike some speculators here

 

[The Dark Knight]

Unfortunately I think they are both fucked up by this. She will always have the stigma of people thinking it was the imagination of a drunk. He will always have the stigma of people thinking he's a rapist. This is a pretty bad outcome all round.

Perhaps the only take away is that if you believe you have been raped, then got to the police while there is still evidence.

And if you are a guy, get a written consent form before being anywhere alone with anyone.

When two consenting drunks (both consented to get very drunk) hookup, then it should not be considered rape. To charge BL the same crime as someone who drags a stranger into the bushes is an utter disgrace and there should be laws passed that are more appropriate to the situation.

 

[tp#12]

When two consenting drunks (both consented to get very drunk) hookup, then it should not be considered rape. To charge BL the same crime as someone who drags a stranger into the bushes is an utter disgrace and there should be laws passed that are more appropriate to the situation.

So you know that he didn't rape her then?

 

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When two consenting drunks (both consented to get very drunk) hookup, then it should not be considered rape. To charge BL the same crime as someone who drags a stranger into the bushes is an utter disgrace and there should be laws passed that are more appropriate to the situation.

You don't actually know what rape is, do you?

 

[The Dark Knight]

So you're saying harrassment is acceptable?

No, BUT that's the reality. She set herself up to be a target by using her situation the way she did.

If she went quietly to the AFP then the sitruation would be different

 

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No, BUT that's the reality. She set herself up to be a target by using her situation the way she did.

If she went quietly to the AFP then the sitruation would be different

The behaviour you walk past is the behaviour you accept...

 

[ShortForBob]

In the US such trials are criminal trials so the case is the state, county, city, or whatever against the perp. This allows something which is rare, but I know happened once.

The perp was a gang member and his associates managed to scare the victim to the point where she refused to cooperate with the prosecutor after the indictment. Most of the time this ends the case, but in the one I know of the judge put the screws to the victim, holding her in jail on contempt of court for nearly a month before she changed her mind. This was extraordinary and only possible due to the specific details of the case which were, as I recall, somewhat unique.

Nevertheless the judge took all kinds of hell for jailing a rape victim.

I can't recall exactly what the names were so I can't google that one up, happened a long time ago, but here's a similar recent case.

An Oregon rape victim was jailed until she testified against her rapist, lawyer says

The 20-year-old woman was jailed for nine days after prosecutors asked that she be held as a "material witness" to ensure her appearance in court.

www.nbcnews.com

Another horrific and difficult case.
The woman was probably too terrified of retribution to testify against her assailant give how few rapists are convicted.
The man needed to be taken off the streets. But why did they need her in court?
Sounds like medical and police evidence should have been enough.

 

[The Dark Knight]

The behaviour you walk past is the behaviour you accept...

So doing media interviews before going to to the AFP is an acceptable decision for you. Good to know.

 

[ShortForBob]

So you're saying harrassment is acceptable?

I think he's saying that if one "must" complain about being raped, for god's sake do it quietly and don't make an exhibition of it.

 

[LB 15]

And yet, "[Director of Public Prosecutions] Drumgold said he still holds the view of reasonable prospect of conviction based on evidence..."

Err that would be his job. Ever heard of a Prosecutor that said he didn't have a reasonable chance of winning a case? This case was hijacked by far left wing cunts like Meli to attack the government of the day. One left wing nut job journalist caused the trial to be delayed by claiming he was guilty while accepting an award on national Television for 'exposing' the story. She held public rally's making her out to be a martyr and her husband - an far left wing failed Rugby player even brokered a book deal for her before the trial had even begun. The accused was tried by the leftwing media to embarrass the government and he had zero chance of ever getting a fair trial (rape cases in the ACT must be a jury trial.) If it was a judge only trial it had zero chance of a conviction because she lied several times in her police interviews, changed her story and there was not a single shred of evidence against him.

What are uncontested facts are that she went out and got drunk (bought her own drinks) and then willingly went back to parliament house with the accused in the wee hours. She was caught naked on the minister couch the next morning. She was also forced to admit (after lying about it at first) that it wasn't hard to get her naked as she went out without wearing any underwear that night. When she got dragged into her bosses office a few days later she realized that she was going to lose her job, and for the first time 'remembered' she had been raped. However she decided she didn't want to press charges until a year later when Lisa Wilkinson (the journalist) decided to champion her cause to try and save her failing career. The book deal was signed just before she decided to go to the police to have the charges moved forward.

The poor cunt had no chance of getting a fair jury trial, but regardless if he lost it would have been overturned on appeal because it was simply a 'he said/she said' without any evidence whatsoever and she is an proven unreliable witness.

As you can see Meli has no belief in the presumption of innocence or in the right a accused to defend themselves. There are no winners in this. The accused has had his life and reputation destroyed and she has become the target of haters. At least the Journalist has had to resign for her job and hopefully her career is over. I really hope that the accused sues her for millions for deformation.

But it did give Meli an excuse to start another attention whoring thread.

 

[The Dark Knight]

The ACT Prosecutor was careful to say that he believes the likelihood of conviction to still be worth pursuing otherwise

He has the facts of the matter, unlike some speculators here

In many cases, the jury end up disagreeing with the procecutor no matter how many "facts" they have to present.

 

[Ease the sheet.]

So doing media interviews before going to to the AFP is an acceptable decision for you. Good to know.

Of course not.

Her case has self inflicted problems.

 

[Ease the sheet.]

Err that would be his job. Ever heard of a Prosecutor that said he didn't have a reasonable chance of winning a case? This case was hijacked by far left wing cunts like Meli to attack the government of the day. One left wing nut job journalist caused the trial to be delayed by claiming he was guilty while accepting an award on national Television for 'exposing' the story. She held public rally's making her out to be a martyr and her husband - an far left wing failed Rugby player even brokered a book deal for her before the trial had even begun. The accused was tried by the leftwing media to embarrass the government and he had zero chance of ever getting a fair trial (rape cases in the ACT must be a jury trial.) If it was a judge only trial it had zero chance of a conviction because she lied several times in her police interviews, changed her story and there was not a single shred of evidence against him.

What are uncontested facts are that she went out and got drunk (bought her own drinks) and then willingly went back to parliament house with the accused in the wee hours. She was caught naked on the minister couch the next morning. She was also forced to admit (after lying about it at first) that it wasn't hard to get her naked as she went out without wearing any underwear that night. When she got dragged into her bosses office a few days later she realized that she was going to lose her job, and for the first time 'remembered' she had been raped. However she decided she didn't want to press charges until a year later when Lisa Wilkinson (the journalist) decided to champion her cause to try and save her failing career. The book deal was signed just before she decided to go to the police to have the charges moved forward.

The poor cunt had no chance of getting a fair jury trial, but regardless if he lost it would have been overturned on appeal because it was simply a 'he said/she said' without any evidence whatsoever and she is an proven unreliable witness.

As you can see Meli has no belief in the presumption of innocence or in the right a accused to defend themselves. There are no winners in this. The accused has had his life and reputation destroyed and she has become the target of haters. At least the Journalist has had to resign for her job and hopefully her career is over. I really hope that the accused sues her for millions for deformation.

But it did give Meli an excuse to start another attention whoring thread.

Millions for deformation?

That's the only thing in your rant that comes close to making sense.

 

[The Dark Knight]

Err that would be his job. Ever heard of a Prosecutor that said he didn't have a reasonable chance of winning a case? This case was hijacked by far left wing cunts like Meli to attack the government of the day. One left wing nut job journalist caused the trial to be delayed by claiming he was guilty while accepting an award on national Television for 'exposing' the story. She held public rally's making her out to be a martyr and her husband - an far left wing failed Rugby player even brokered a book deal for her before the trial had even begun. The accused was tried by the leftwing media to embarrass the government and he had zero chance of ever getting a fair trial (rape cases in the ACT must be a jury trial.) If it was a judge only trial it had zero chance of a conviction because she lied several times in her police interviews, changed her story and there was not a single shred of evidence against him.

What are uncontested facts are that she went out and got drunk (bought her own drinks) and then willingly went back to parliament house with the accused in the wee hours. She was caught naked on the minister couch the next morning. She was also forced to admit (after lying about it at first) that it wasn't hard to get her naked as she went out without wearing any underwear that night. When she got dragged into her bosses office a few days later she realized that she was going to lose her job, and for the first time 'remembered' she had been raped. However she decided she didn't want to press charges until a year later when Lisa Wilkinson (the journalist) decided to champion her cause to try and save her failing career. The book deal was signed just before she decided to go to the police to have the charges moved forward.

The poor cunt had no chance of getting a fair jury trial, but regardless if he lost it would have been overturned on appeal because it was simply a 'he said/she said' without any evidence whatsoever and she is an proven unreliable witness.

As you can see Meli has no belief in the presumption of innocence or in the right a accused to defend themselves. There are no winners in this. The accused has had his life and reputation destroyed and she has become the target of haters. At least the Journalist has had to resign for her job and hopefully her career is over. I really hope that the accused sues her for millions for deformation.

But it did give Meli an excuse to start another attention whoring thread.

He could have gotten a fair trial if BH went to the AFP and skipped all of the attention whoring she did to further her career.

 

[LB 15]

No.
I'm saying harrassment of the complainant has taken its toll.

What do you think it has done to the accused? But i guess his well being doesn't matter because you and Meli have found him guilty.

He'll pop up at the IPA or some other nonsense and become a Kyle Rittenhouse type figure among the right. Him being so unfairly accused and completely innocent etc and a victim of 'wokeism'

Meli is a biased fool. You are simply a fool. The one who fucked up this trail and convinced her to go through all this was supposedly on her side.

 

[tp#12]

In many cases, the jury end up disagreeing with the procecutor no matter how many "facts" they have to present.

Lol, no shit

You neatly avoided the point that you don't have any facts

 

[LB 15]

I find it pathetic that some see this as a win.

A win for what?

Who the fuck sees this as a win?