Rape trial dropped because attacks on the accuser endanger her health?

[Fah Kiew Tu]

Don't forget group C - The 'fuck I love this place' types who are only here to make LWNJ's heads explode. See post above.

I don't think the B & C groups are mutually exclusive.

Watching Meli, Ease and Ramdumb have a meltdown has been great entertainment.

FKT

 

[Fah Kiew Tu]

Huh?
You have stated that you know that BL is a serial rapist, but you don't actually know if BH was raped?
Which of the other accusations are you sure of then? And whay are they actually? The only one I've seen was the leg fondling accusation - which for me at least, falls a little short of rape.

You must have had some firm knowledge before you came on here and unequivically stated that BL is a rapist? Surely?

Just how long have you been reading Meli's posts?

Surely you know she's not at all bothered by FACTS. With her, it's all about 'the vibe'....

Weather is improving at last down here, you can come home now.

FKT

 

[ShortForBob]

OK
You are leaning towards someone deliberately causing a mistrial.

No. That would be Rando.
My quote if you don't mind?
"And it wouldn't take a conspiracy for one of the jurors to take documents into the jury room. Which is what happened. The jury were told 17 times by the judge not to do their own research.
Whether the juryperson was intending to have the trial dropped or just stupid and arrogant we'll never know, but as in the ACT one can't prosecute a jury member for bad behaviour, they got away with it."

"Getting away with it" refers to stupidity and arrogance as much as deliberate intent.

I'm simply pointing out that this risks becoming a thing now this trial has been dropped and people realise it can be done.
People are not as honest as they used to be, boundaries are blurred if not broken and if there are no consequences for jurors disregarding judges instruction's, what's to be done?

 

[ShortForBob]

Nope; she said it was rape. He said no, it was not rape. This should reflect on him even if it not was rape. He should not be out drinking at all hours and create this situation in the first place. The prosecutors did not think they could get a conviction based on the evidence. This is how it works in my Dominion.

But ours did. And for all we know, could have done if the jury hadn't stuffed up.

 

[LB 15]

Huh?
You have stated that you know that BL is a serial rapist, but you don't actually know if BH was raped?
Which of the other accusations are you sure of then? And whay are they actually? The only one I've seen was the leg fondling accusation - which for me at least, falls a little short of rape.

You must have had some firm knowledge before you came on here and unequivically stated that BL is a rapist? Surely?

He worked for a Liberal Minister.
Guilty.

 

[ShortForBob]

Huh?
You have stated that you know that BL is a serial rapist, but you don't actually know if BH was raped?
Which of the other accusations are you sure of then? And whay are they actually? The only one I've seen was the leg fondling accusation - which for me at least, falls a little short of rape.

You must have had some firm knowledge before you came on here and unequivically stated that BL is a rapist? Surely?

Again no. I think he's a serial rapist based 3 other allegations made, that may or may not have been presented at trial. (we don't know if it was or wasn't)
Any reasonable person would.
I did post about the two rape allegations in the same post (I believe) you either missed it or chose not to read it. Two women claimed he raped them after Higgins came forward, one raped in 2016 and one in 2021. Both Liberal party people. Both raped after a night out with this 'man"
Initially reported in The Australian and mentioned in the ABC, suppressed by the judge. that suppression has now been lifted but I'm not paying for a subscription to the bloody Australian to fish them out .
But if it's not allowed as evidence, the jury doesn't get to add this character assessment to the pile of circumstantial evidence they have to base their decision on.

 

[LB 15]

They have a duty to only prosecute cases that have a reasonable chance of winning.

Which he was told quite clearly this case was not.

 

[spankoka]

Yes; still up to to prosecutors to prosecute on behalf of the King.

 

[LB 15]

OK
You are leaning towards someone deliberately causing a mistrial.
Lets think this through.
It needs a unanimous decision to find someone guilty of rape.
Therefore, if as a juror, you are convinced someone is innocent in a rape case, you know that all you have to do is keep voting 'innocent' and the defendant will get off, and can never be tried for that crime again. However, if you cause a mistrial, then there will likely be a new case, where the defendant might be found guilty.

So if you think the person is innocent, there is a 100% foolproof and legal way to ensure that outcome.

But if you think someone is guilty, but are sure that other jurors think they are innocent, you are stuck. Just one 'innocent' call outvotes 11 guilty calls. So it seems you are stuck.

Unless! perhaps if there is a mistrial, the next jury might find a guilty verdict.

So tell us - is there any possible reason that you can see for someone who thought the defendant innocent for deliberately causing a mistrial?

To me, it is much more likely that it was someone who wanted a guilty verdict, and knew they couldn't get it, would deliberately cause the miscarriage of justice that results from a known innocent verdict being disrupted.

We have pointed out all of this before to her. That is why the sack of shit has us on ignore. So she can ignore the facts. Meli and randum thought that a acquittal required an unanimous decision as well as a guilty. But even if the came back 12 zip for an acquittal, the Jury would have been wrong because he did it. He was a white heterosexual male worked for the Liberal party for fucks sake. Of course he was guilty.

 

[ShortForBob]

Documents show other Bruce Lehrmann sexual assault allegations | Canberra Weekly

Other women reported sexual assault and harassment allegations against a man accused of raping Brittany Higgins in 2019, court documents show.

canberraweekly.com.au

Third woman alleges she was sexually assaulted by same man accused of raping Brittany Higgins

A third woman alleges she was sexually assaulted by the same former federal government advisor accused of raping former Liberal staffer Brittany Higgins.

www.abc.net.au

PM 'upset' to learn of second rape claim against man accused by Brittany Higgins

Prime Minister Scott Morrison says he is "upset" to read reports that a second woman was allegedly raped by the same man accused of sexually assaulting former Liberals staffer Brittany Higgins.

www.abc.net.au

 

[LB 15]

Well well look who is back peddling now...

Again no. I think he's a serial rapist

3 times she has posted categorially that he is a serial rapist. She must be getting tied of hiding inside with the curtains closed.

based 3 other allegations made, that may or may not have been presented at trial. (we don't know if it was or wasn't)

We most certainly know it wasn't. It is inadmissible you dumb cunt.

Any reasonable person would.

Reasonable people do not still smoke in 2022. And no a reasonable person would judge the case on its merits not on hearsay, as the law requires. You are the least reasonable person I have ever come across. Probably why you get punted off forums. So how come he hasn't been charged with anything?

I did post about the two rape allegations in the same post

You sure did, right after the judge had told people not to do that exact thing. Contempt of court it is called.

But if it's not allowed as evidence, the jury doesn't get to add this character assessment to the pile of circumstantial evidence they have to base their decision on.

Circumstantial evidence and hearsay. You can't make this shit up. But of course Meli has posted that the accuser's character assessment should never be allowed. Even if that would include a minister of the crown giving evidence that she is a lying little cow with a book deal.
But who gives a fuck - the charges have been dropped and he is a free and a wrongly accused man. With the counties top Defo firm in his corner...

Now meli don't you do a bent sailor and go running away because you have been shown to be clueless. Your buthurt over the coming year is going to be a joy to behold.
Now have another ciggie and calm down.

 

[Ease the sheet.]

Which he was told quite clearly this case was not.

If only the jury could have returned after 10 mins of deliberations with a "not guilty" and a "don't waste our fucking time" verdict.

Y'know, something that could show that the bulshitters you agree with had some grasp of reality.

 

[LB 15]

If only the jury could have returned after 10 mins of deliberations with a "not guilty" and a "don't waste our fucking time" verdict.

Y'know, something that could show that the bulshitters you agree with had some grasp of reality.

Well that is exactly what should have happened after the lack of evidence tendered. But this is the ACT where everyone is a public servant so the chances of there not being one left wing nut job like you or meli in every 12 people are pretty slim. Of course if he was guilty they would have been back in half an hour as well. Look cupcake all the hand wringing in the world is not going to change the result. Charges dismissed. Have you tried some of randoms cream?

 

[LB 15]

Yes; still up to to prosecutors to prosecute on behalf of the King.

The police take cases to the DPP to be prosecuted. This isn't an episode of 'Suits' mate!

 

[ShortForBob]

Obviously, while all Liberal men are paragons of virtue, truth and chivalry, all Liberal women that disagree are slags and lying cows that shouldn't be allowed to work in their MP's offices and will be shunned and hounded into the mental hospital if they make accusations of rape. (against Liberals)

 

[Ease the sheet.]

Obviously, while all Liberal men are paragons of virtue, truth and chivalry, all Liberal women that disagree are slags and lying cows that shouldn't be allowed to work in their MP's offices and will be shunned and hounded into the mental hospital if they make accusations of rape. (against Liberals)

I'm still waiting for Porter to celebrate his "deformation" win

 

[ShortForBob]

I'm still waiting for Porter to celebrate his "deformation" win

one two three..but what about?
And Liberals are wondering why their party is dying.
Because their policies are out of touch or their attitudes and smear campaigns are? or both.
An ability to learn from past mistakes and change, is just not in their genes.

 

[LB 15]

Meli is the gift that just keeps on giving.

But ours did. And for all we know, could have done if the jury hadn't stuffed up.

So when you say 'Our' prosecutor do you mean the NWNJ's? And you would be dead right - his tie and biased comments give that away. For all we know? Bwahahahahahahahahaha.
All we know was that it was a hung jury at the time because if they had a result, they would have returned you fucking idiot. It was heading for a hung jury at worse and that is an acquittal when the mysterious document was found that caused the mistrial- by cleaners employed by the far left wing ACT government.

 

[LB 15]

I'm still waiting for Porter to celebrate his "deformation" win

Change of subject old boy. Looking to Ease the pain for a few posts.
But here you go mate...

It is understood that under the terms of the settlement no money will be exchanged, but the ABC will pay the costs of mediation and place an editor’s note on the original article (which remains online) stating that the ABC did not intend to suggest Mr Porter had actually committed the alleged offence.

In recent days, Mr Porter has said publicly that the ABC has been forced into a “humiliating backdown” over the “sensationalist” and “one-sided” story and that … “they regret the outcome of that article.”

 

[Ease the sheet.]

one two three..but what about?
And Liberals are wondering why their party is dying.
Because their policies are out of touch or their attitudes and smear campaigns are? or both.
An ability to learn from past mistakes and change, is just not in their genes.

There's plenty of evidence here of the arrogance and the irrelevance of reality.