Rape trial dropped because attacks on the accuser endanger her health?

[LB 15]

pot, kettle

This is SA petal. You need to lift your game. Maybe come back when you are ready to play.

 

[The Dark Knight]

"Why would she lie"

Because she regretted cheating on her boyfriend and wanted to cover her arse.

 

[tp#12]

This is SA petal. You need to lift your game. Maybe come back when you are ready to play.

lol

Still waiting for my quote ...

 

[LB 15]

Blah blah

Still waiting on the couch.

 

[LB 15]

wanted to cover her arse.

That is what underpants are for.

 

[LB 15]

Still waiting for my quote ...

I will bet you are still waiting on your first root as well, but there is nothing I intend to do about that either. You could always head out to a few bars without any underwear on and get blind drunk...

 

[tp#12]

That is what underpants are for.

Well, you've had plenty of opportunities to back your words and instead you want to be a dick .. fair enough, that's how a weak cunt acts, I get it ..

Enjoy your trolling

 

[LB 15]

I logged out to see what the deranged book stacker has been posting AND FUCK ME DEAD! She has completely lost her shit.
This was one of my favorite quotes-
"Maybe harassing/smearing people on social media before a trial should be a criminal offence ."

But it is clearly fine to do it in the mainstream media...

 

[LB 15]

Enjoy your trolling

Tapping out so soon? That must be one of the shortest sock puppets in SA history.

 

[The Dark Knight]

That is what underpants are for.

yes, but if she was without, then she needed an alternative.

 

[The Dark Knight]

I logged out to see what the deranged book stacker has been posting AND FUCK ME DEAD! She has completely lost her shit.
This was one of my favorite quotes-
"Maybe harassing/smearing people on social media before a trial should be a criminal offence ."

But it is clearly fine to do it in the mainstream media...

did you expect anything better coming from her?

 

[ShortForBob]

Makes you wonder about how these guys rear their sons and daughters.
I don't know if he's guilty of rape or not.
But questions have to be asked.
She was only 19 years old and very drunk. He was how old?
If sex took place, even "consensual". What was he thinking?
If sex didn't take place, what sort of man leaves a very drunk "child" that he's escorted into a building late at night without offering an escort home? Or even checking if she's OK, asking security if she's ok, if she's left?

And more to the point, why would she lie?
There was no reason for her to lie about being raped, she may have been worried about losing her job for being in the building. But why make up a story about being raped?
From a woman's point of view it makes no sense for her to do so.

Yeah, better call family services. I'm about to take my 15 YO out, dunk him in water a few times and give him shit about being incompetant. There will be some child labor involving a scrubbing bruch, and I may then force him to watch me partake in a recreational drug or two.

Pretty fucked up thing to accuse ask enquiring questions about the way people on here treat their kids.

"These Guy's" is not necessarily talking about the men on this forum, (though if the cap fits?)
"These guys" is a reference to all the men that crucify women,often not much older than children, for speaking out, not wearing undies and in their innocence, daring to speak to the press, daring to challenge their bosses for inaction, daring to try to change the culture etc.

 

[ShortForBob]

Are you now advocating that we treat 19 YOs as children? Or is it women that we should be treating as children?



If it was the other way around, and he'd fallen asleep on a couch and she left him there in disgust and went home, would anyone be saying a single critical thing?

Yes, when they are but a few years out of childhood, naive, full of their new adult status and in the company of much older men.

As to the other, It hasn't come up, but I raise my children to look after their companions, male or female or anything in between. When they are your peers.
Furthermore, when I'm at a drinks party with work colleagues, I make sure that all of them , male or female or anything in between are safe to get home. Sometimes I even drive them home.
It's what adults do.

You?

 

[mccroc]

No.
I'm saying harrassment of the complainant has taken its toll.

She paraded around with Grace Tame, getting a book written about her before the trial. I think that's why she got "harassed". I found it very interesting that the defence was that they had never had sex, not that he thought it was consensual. I feel he might have been acquitted were it not for the jury member.

I think both of them have lost a great deal, and that is sad, but I cannot see how we can change the idea of innocent until proven guilty just for sexual assault cases.

 

[LB 15]

And BTW Meli - great thread. It has been weeks since we had a good shitfight and this one has kicked off nicely. But on a serious note there are some lessons for all young people in this sorry tale.

Never go drinking without your...

 

[LB 15]

I cannot see how we can change the idea of innocent until proven guilty just for sexual assault cases.

That is exactly what meli and the rest of the snowflakes want. They have no interest in procedural fairness or the presumption of innocence. He is guilty because he worked for the Liberal party.

 

[The Dark Knight]

He is guilty because he worked for the Liberal party.

that sums it up perfectly for some idiots here.

 

[ShortForBob]

She paraded around with Grace Tame, getting a book written about her before the trial. I think that's why she got "harassed". I found it very interesting that the defence was that they had never had sex, not that he thought it was consensual. I feel he might have been acquitted were it not for the jury member.

I think both of them have lost a great deal, and that is sad, but I cannot see how we can change the idea of innocent until proven guilty just for sexual assault cases.

Interesting choice of words.
You mean she sought the company and mutual support of an advocate for survivors of sexual assault?
How very unwomanly of her.
Flaunting her objections to being raped. Shocking.

Maybe if the onus of proof wasn't held with a heavy shroud of slander on the victim, it might help.

The real person at fault is that juror who felt that she or he had to bring their own research about women lying about rape into the jury room. WHY would a juror feel the need to research this?
perhaps because it's a popular theme? who knows?

 

[Goodvibes]

It takes something as pointed as this to bring out the real people who post here.

They can speak in weasel code, they can dodge the questions, but we can see them for what they are. Misogynist RWNJ's.

In the same way that the US is divided along educational lines, we have that here. The fuckwits supporting the right of that accused rapist to leave a young women drunk and naked, are the same people who occupy the right in the US.

Almost without exception, they are the educational poor. They did not do any sciences at school or uni and resented those intelligent enough to do it. Because they were dumb-fucks, they didn't get a root till years after the smart guys did and they still hate women for it.

Recognise them for what they are.

 

[ShortForBob]

The gossip about L is interesting. But no one paid any heed to that.
I wonder if he was asked if he was carrying condoms that night?
And if so, would they draw the conclusion that he was out looking for sex?

Part of the problem with these cases is still the double standards that apply in both the questioning of barrister's and the minds of the jury and public.

The invasion and scrutiny of Ms Higgins private life or any other rape victims could very easily be prohibited by a judge before the barrister says it.

a code of conduct as it were.