Rape trial dropped because attacks on the accuser endanger her health?

[mccroc]

Interesting choice of words.
You mean she sought the company and mutual support of an advocate for survivors of sexual assault?
How very unwomanly of her.
Flaunting her objections to being raped. Shocking.

Maybe if the onus of proof wasn't held with a heavy shroud of slander on the victim, it might help.

The real person at fault is that juror who felt that she or he had to bring their own research about women lying about rape into the jury room. WHY would a juror feel the need to research this?
perhaps because it's a popular theme? who knows?

The point is that she had accused someone of sexual assault - if he had been found guilty before becoming the face of Rape in Parliament, then I would have been fully supportive. It seemed as though she wanted him tried in the media. Grace Tame gave her credibility that she wouldn't have had ordinarily. The pressure in the media led the Prime Minister to apologise.All before a trial.

 

[ShortForBob]

That is exactly what meli and the rest of the snowflakes want. They have no interest in procedural fairness or the presumption of innocence. He is guilty because he worked for the Liberal party.

And who did she work for?

The point is that she had accused someone of sexual assault - if he had been found guilty before becoming the face of Rape in Parliament, then I would have been fully supportive. It seemed as though she wanted him tried in the media. Grace Tame gave her credibility that she wouldn't have had ordinarily. The pressure in the media led the Prime Minister to apologise.All before a trial.

Let's not make this about party politics.
It isn't.
And him being tried in the media and her being tried in the media looks like the only justice they are going to get.

The only winners are as someone else said, are the scum that have possibly harassed her to the point of suicide.
I can't see what else this means.

This morning, Mr Drumgold said he had received advice that had motivated him to drop the retrial.

"I have recently received compelling evidence from two independent medical experts that the ongoing trauma associated with this prosecution presents a significant and unacceptable risk to the life of the complainant," he said.

 

[mccroc]

And who did she work for?

Let's not make this about party politics.
It isn't.
And him being tried in the media and her being tried in the media looks like the only justice they are going to get.

The only winners are as someone else said, are the scum that have possibly harassed her to the point of suicide.
I can't see what else this means.

This morning, Mr Drumgold said he had received advice that had motivated him to drop the retrial.

"I have recently received compelling evidence from two independent medical experts that the ongoing trauma associated with this prosecution presents a significant and unacceptable risk to the life of the complainant," he said.

Last comment - my mention of trial in the media is that the majority of sexual assault cases are not tried in the public eye and in the media. Some obviously are, but not quite to the level of this one. Perhaps because of where they both worked it may have got into the mainstream media anyway, but I think there would have been less posturing, and less pressure on the PM and Parliament House (either side of politics). Had there been a much earlier trial with everyone saying "no comment" the result may have been very different, for both of them.

Her on-going mental health is of primary concern, I agree.

 

[LB 15]

Almost without exception, they are the educational poor.

This sentence might just be one of SA's greatest own goals. Amazing that you can kick yourself in the nuts without dislocating your hip.

 

[LB 15]

Another truly horrific quote from Meli...
"I wouldn't have worn undies with that dress either at her age."

However the Whale bone corset might have made it uncomfortable to sleep on the couch.

 

[Goodvibes]

This sentence might just be one of SA's greatest own goals. Amazing that you can kick yourself in the nuts without dislocating your hip.

From what you have posted about your education, the comment fucking bang on. You did no science, that's ok normally, but it explains your climate change denial.

Grumpy didn't even finish high school.

BTW your snail trail comments are fucking out of order. Not appreciated, it's shit like that that tells us what you are regardless of the weasel words and bullshit you post.

 

[Se7en]

"These Guy's" is not necessarily talking about the men on this forum, (though if the cap fits?)

Bollocks.
It was written in response to a comment about RWNJ on the forum. If you are going take snide shots, have the gumption to own it. Particularly as half the blokes it was aimed at couldn't see it.

 

[Se7en]

You?

When I was 19? drew on their face with a texta and gave them shit the next day. Thankfully, people were not carrying cameras everywhere when I was at uni

 

[00seven]

Wow. Meli really is the most gutless bitch I've dealt with. What is with BS like this? Fucking ignore my arse. Turns it off so she can quote and hang shit then runs away to ignore again.

Twice the coward has done it to me.

 

[Goodvibes]

Wow. Meli really is the most gutless bitch I've dealt with. What is with BS like this? Fucking ignore my arse. Turns it off so she can quote and hang shit then runs away to ignore again.

Twice the coward has done it to me.

Awe noooo! Someone on the interweb turned their ignore on and then off again! And they did it twice!

Mummy mummy make them stop!

 

[00seven]

You again? You should stick to your gimp suit.

 

[ShortForBob]

Last comment - my mention of trial in the media is that the majority of sexual assault cases are not tried in the public eye and in the media. Some obviously are, but not quite to the level of this one. Perhaps because of where they both worked it may have got into the mainstream media anyway, but I think there would have been less posturing, and less pressure on the PM and Parliament House (either side of politics). Had there been a much earlier trial with everyone saying "no comment" the result may have been very different, for both of them.

Her on-going mental health is of primary concern, I agree.

That was surely the point.

 

[dfw_sailor]

You seem triggered. Anything you wish to share with us? Hey don't sweat it buddy - who hasn't woken up on a strange couch with a naked midget and a sore arse?

Jfc LB

Whether it is now, the 90's or 80's...

On what planet does a senior employee not put a drunk junior employee of the opposite sex into a cab and send him or her straight home?

Instead they go into the work place and she ends up passed out naked and he doesn't check up on her.

In my world back then (Senior Management), that would be a serious dereliction of care and instant dismissal, rape or not.

I've enjoyed some of your playfully irreverent cunty comments and discussions in the past, but not any more.

You should change your byline to "lower than a cunt".

 

[Mid]

kRist , what a smell .

 

[dfw_sailor]

kRist , what a smell .

Reeks of stench.

To me it seems we have a mini group of bogans here who used to live that way.

Translation for non Aussies: a Bogan typically has no class, no respect for others, intent on getting drunk whenever possible, aiways on the lookout for a root, drive utes and enjoy toys that are as loud as possible, especially if it pisses off bystanders.

And when the bogan gets to retirement age, their liver is shot (no more drinking), they can't get it up no more, and the only chance of finding an energetic rooting partner is to splash some serious cash by gift or lifestyle.

Instead they live in their own small world past, wishing they had been even more bogan, had more Molls in their social circle, and now defend other bogans who have been caught out, saying that's how it was way back then or blaming politics.

 

[Mark_K]

Another horrific and difficult case.
The woman was probably too terrified of retribution to testify against her assailant give how few rapists are convicted.
The man needed to be taken off the streets. But why did they need her in court?
Sounds like medical and police evidence should have been enough.

To testify that it wasn't consensual.

 

[Goodvibes]

That was surely the point.

How easy was it to torpedo the trial, to leave that material behind in the Jury Room. It took the coordination of several people to make this happen.

It took at least four things to work in sequence.

1. The Jury member had to get the material, keep in mind that they had to print it, in this day of electronic search results.
2. The Jury Member had to leave their shit there, rather than just gather up their notes, knowing (because they had been told) that material like that was forbidden.
3. The people cleaning the Jury Room had to recognise inappropriate material over other notes that may have been left, rather than just leave it to cleaners who do not give a fuck. I mean, is analysing the waste bins of jury rooms standard practice?
4. They had to report it.

At the time I thought this sequence was more unusual than what they found. I mean, why the fuck would they just not clean the fucking room? Convenient hey?

Also, the Jury Member would have known that there is no penalty in the ACT for breaching the rules. Mmmmmm.

Given the people concerned, you can't tell me that some brilliant RWNJ minds could not have planned this.

 

[Goodvibes]

Jfc LB


You should change your byline to "lower than a cunt".

"Ankles" three feet lower than a cunt.

 

[LB 15]

Reeks of stench.

To me it seems we have a mini group of bogans here who used to live that way.

Translation for non Aussies: a Bogan typically has no class, no respect for others, intent on getting drunk whenever possible, aiways on the lookout for a root, drive utes and enjoy toys that are as loud as possible, especially if it pisses off bystanders.

And when the bogan gets to retirement age, their liver is shot (no more drinking), they can't get it up no more, and the only chance of finding an energetic rooting partner is to splash some serious cash by gift or lifestyle.

Instead they live in their own small world past, wishing they had been even more bogan, had more Molls in their social circle, and now defend other bogans who have been caught out, saying that's how it was way back then or blaming politics.

Wow. Another triggered pussy. Look dude I am sorry that it happened to you as well but it wasn’t me who left you naked on the couch with your hand tied with a red bandanna and a used condom hanging out of your arse.

 

[LB 15]

How easy was it to torpedo the trial, to leave that material behind in the Jury Room. It took the coordination of several people to make this happen.

It took at least four things to work in sequence.

1. The Jury member had to get the material, keep in mind that they had to print it, in this day of electronic search results.
2. The Jury Member had to leave their shit there, rather than just gather up their notes, knowing (because they had been told) that material like that was forbidden.
3. The people cleaning the Jury Room had to recognise inappropriate material over other notes that may have been left, rather than just leave it to cleaners who do not give a fuck. I mean, is analysing the waste bins of jury rooms standard practice?
4. They had to report it.

At the time I thought this sequence was more unusual than what they found. I mean, why the fuck would they just not clean the fucking room? Convenient hey?

Also, the Jury Member would have known that there is no penalty in the ACT for breaching the rules. Mmmmmm.

Given the people concerned, you can't tell me that some brilliant RWNJ minds could not have planned this.

Surely you can find something to link this to the world trade centre hoax and those fake moon landings. Little wonder you get punted from forums all the time.