THANK YOU JNavas!!Great post Que. I too am gutted they are not showing the solo races. I find it extraordinary that this up was made for Tv, has had set back after set back, and the. I their genius they decide not to televise the only thing that means anything in this cup......the sailing.Stephen Barclay putting out a press release stating that the publics appetite and curiosity for seeing these boats race has been satisfied is so far off the mark.I sat down last night to watch the RR2 race 1 and 2 off youtube and was glued to the screen for the first three legs. The technology and crew work involved in flying these machines is nothing short of incredible. I am appalled that AC has decided to lo longer to provide coverage for the single boat races, and I have to think that sponsors have to be a bit choked that the limited market exposure they could receive is being cut back. As has been said here a million times, management and promotion of the event has been and continues to be poor.
As far as the boat-to-boat tactics and runaway finishes, I think that's fairly consistent with the history of this event (except in IACC classes). This is a design driven event, the idea is to build the fastest you can get away with and then to "run what you brung". Looking back through history, close "spectator-friendly" racing has never been a very high priority of this event.
I miss watching tacking duels, mark rounding sail changes, close boat tactics, and all of the other stuff that is racing....but those aspects aren't necessarily part of "America's Cup". There are a lot of other classes (few televised, unfortunately) which have the excitement of match racing. In my opinion, AC these days has to rely on the excitement of "technology deployment". Cutting coverage because there is no "match" is a poor decision.....because the "match" race at this point has only 2 minutes of boat-to-boat interaction before it turns back into a technology race.
Made for tv but lets not put it on tv. I wonder his press release was put on Facebook for the target audience.
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shown on TVNZ
LR currently racing (!) very light winds, marginal foiling conditions
http://tvnz.co.nz/americas-cup-video
LR currently racing (!) very light winds, marginal foiling conditions
http://tvnz.co.nz/americas-cup-video
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^ me either, what camera's feed were they showing?
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I've read some of this, am i right in thinking
the first few races one boat (LR) had a rich man's tantrum and didn't show?
Artemis is not yet repaired/replaced.
in the one race that's actually happened was actually a one boat race cos the loser was outside the time limits?
In short the whole thing is pretty pointless. What's more the sheer amount of money being thrown at a complete farce may reflect badly on the rest of sailing? Aren't the sponsors pissed - I would be.
I know the America's cup is kind of like F1 its more about the lawyers, the off the water penalties and the whining than the racing but even by that (low) standard this looks dumb to me.
Err and the bit about LR improving and Artemis joining in. Naaa too late. You can't start that badly against a boat that works and that the sailors know how to handle and expect to come back. Short of catastrophic boat failure (and possibly another death) the Kiwi's have it.
All it takes to win most races is sail reasonably fast in the right detection and not F$%k up in a boat that works. LR have proved they can't do that, Artemis don't have a boat. The Kiwi's boat didn't fall to bits, they can maneuver it and sail the course - more than enough.
the first few races one boat (LR) had a rich man's tantrum and didn't show?
Artemis is not yet repaired/replaced.
in the one race that's actually happened was actually a one boat race cos the loser was outside the time limits?
In short the whole thing is pretty pointless. What's more the sheer amount of money being thrown at a complete farce may reflect badly on the rest of sailing? Aren't the sponsors pissed - I would be.
I know the America's cup is kind of like F1 its more about the lawyers, the off the water penalties and the whining than the racing but even by that (low) standard this looks dumb to me.
Err and the bit about LR improving and Artemis joining in. Naaa too late. You can't start that badly against a boat that works and that the sailors know how to handle and expect to come back. Short of catastrophic boat failure (and possibly another death) the Kiwi's have it.
All it takes to win most races is sail reasonably fast in the right detection and not F$%k up in a boat that works. LR have proved they can't do that, Artemis don't have a boat. The Kiwi's boat didn't fall to bits, they can maneuver it and sail the course - more than enough.
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The fact that there are only 3 Challengers buys LR and AR some desperately-needed time but you have it right. ETNZ is light years ahead, even if they did have to switch boats.
The LR v AR series could be fun; even the LVC Final should be, even if it's a whitewash; the AC itself too, either way.
A lot of what will make all of the coming racing exciting to at least look forward to, is all the Rumsfeldian unknowables, and even if the races are relatively short the buildup and anticipation is quite long, yet getting shorter.
These boats and that wind help too!
The LR v AR series could be fun; even the LVC Final should be, even if it's a whitewash; the AC itself too, either way.
A lot of what will make all of the coming racing exciting to at least look forward to, is all the Rumsfeldian unknowables, and even if the races are relatively short the buildup and anticipation is quite long, yet getting shorter.
These boats and that wind help too!
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MAHGUAH_SCALPS_PILGRIMS
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:lol:The fact that there are only 3 Challengers buys LR and AR some desperately-needed time but you have it right. ETNZ is light years ahead, even if they did have to switch boats.
The LR v AR series could be fun; even the LVC Final should be, even if it's a whitewash; the AC itself too, either way.
A lot of what will make all of the coming racing exciting to at least look forward to, is all the Rumsfeldian unknowables, and even if the races are relatively short the buildup and anticipation is quite long, yet getting shorter.
These boats and that wind help too!
what a pile of bs you wrote above - when I thought your bs was piled as high as it could go
you manage to add another swirl
and whats really pathetic is how you -
to justify the sf fiasco and the ggyc towed line bs-
:lol:
dogwatch
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Lucky all those reserve days are stuffed into the RR schedule, otherwise we might all be hyperventilating by now. Eight days between actual races. Eight fucking days.
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jaysper
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Yup, its turned into the "Summer of Sayin".
Sayin how fast both challengers are.
Sayin how much better it will be once Big Blue gets in there.
I am extermely excited about the prospect of ETNZ bringing the cup home, but not about much else.
However, I do agree the venue is frickin awesome and wonder what the chances of seeing the cup held inside Auckland harbour along the beach fronts if ETNZ do successfully challenge.
Nutta
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It's even worse than that. The most entertaining thing going on are the tit for tat protests between ACEA and LR coming up in front of the jury.
If this event is the model used for AC35, they could have a truely global event. There are court rooms available in all major cities that could be part of the great event!
If this event is the model used for AC35, they could have a truely global event. There are court rooms available in all major cities that could be part of the great event!
Spot on!!
Not only have the AC72's removed much of the interaction between the boats, the boundaries have helped remove nearly all tactical consideration from the race course. TV coverage only needs to be to Mark 1, after which, to keep the viewers amused, a host of lawyers could summarise the latest protest, counter protest, hissing fit, tanturm, Barcl-arsed-ism, hand bags at dawn, events off the water!!! Enthralling TV for the Faceless generation.
