Refurb 1988 Moody 376

[ropetrick]

Cover the luan with vinyl if you want to trap moisture. (purple font)

Vinyl is easy to clean but good glossy paint is also.

 

[Albatros]

what does luan mean ? all I found was : Luan means “lion” (Albanian), “moon” (Portuguese) and “bells” (Chinese).

let's hope these windows don't leak, the Moody I sail on had the one that you partially see in pic above leaking and somewhat cracked, had it taken out, fixed and reinstalled and the comment from the german engineer who did that in Corfu was : never again will I try this, so if you would ask me to do the other side too I'll refuse, one reason was the weird form of the window and extremely hard to do without dismantling like you did, so if there is any problem with these windows, do it now while it's stripped.

 

[Marcjsmith]

what does luan mean ? all I found was : Luan means “lion” (Albanian), “moon” (Portuguese) and “bells” (Chinese).

let's hope these windows don't leak, the Moody I sail on had the one that you partially see in pic above leaking and somewhat cracked, had it taken out, fixed and reinstalled and the comment from the german engineer who did that in Corfu was : never again will I try this, so if you would ask me to do the other side too I'll refuse, one reason was the weird form of the window and extremely hard to do without dismantling like you did, so if there is any problem with these windows, do it now while it's stripped.

Luan.  AKA door skin.   usually 1/4"  or 1/8" thick plywood.   Ive always heard it referred to as luan...  https://homeguides.sfgate.com/luan-wood-99466.html

albatross,  yes i do believe they drip some.    they are currently covered with plastic on the outside just as a precaution.  my plan is to either  rebuild the windows with new plexiglass and reinstall the frames per the factory guidelines (i have the procedure from the moody website),  but I'm not overly fond as this means there are two seals to worry about.  the seal between the glass and frame, and the seal between the frame and cabin.  I know if done properly, should provide years of  trouble free service.

I was also thinking of using the 3m VHB tape, ditching the  frames completely and sticking the windows to outside of the cabin.  this means that I would then have to make some sort of trim around the exposed fiberglass edge inside, or reuse the interior frame as my trim...  the down side to this is the window, being mounted to the outside of the cabin,  would stick out 6mm.  upside,  only one seal to fail, and potential would give the old boat a somewhat more modern look...  but being that all the other opening windows have aluminum trim,  might look odd.

 

[SloopJonB]

Luan is called Philippine Mahogany around here. AFAIK it's actually a type of cedar.

I think you'll have a difficult time getting an acceptable painted finish on it - will need lots of sanding & re-coating.

Laminating it with "Arborite" (high pressure laminate) will be a whole lot easier and will give a better final finish.

If it was me I'd cover the luan panels with thin foam - like yoga mat material - then new vinyl - much easier on the head.

 

[Marcjsmith]

jon,

painting/sanding.    I won't know until i try.  I don't expect to be able to hide the wood grain its going to show through. and even if I paint and it doesn't look good,  I could always then still go with some sort of headliner material and I'd only be about the paint. (labor is free)

I have enough vertical clearance that I'm only banging my head on the door frames right now.

your "arborite" is a lot like formica  which would not be bad...

 

[Slick470]

You can spread a thin layer of wood filler over the surface with a drywall knife to fill the grain, which should hide it. Many of the fillers can be thinned with water to allow for an easier spread and thinner coat.

 

[Marcjsmith]

You can spread a thin layer of wood filler over the surface with a drywall knife to fill the grain, which should hide it. Many of the fillers can be thinned with water to allow for an easier spread and thinner coat.

i'm not so sure that the wood grain showing through for texture would  look all that bad...  there are parts of the cabin roof, near the galley and chart table that are  either glass or plastic that have a "leather texture" molded into them along with the color. so it matched the old vinyl.

 

[Slick470]

If that is the look you are going for, go for it. Maybe do a test run on piece that you aren't planning on reusing. 

 

[andykane]

Nothing wrong with throwing some paint on there now to get sailing, then revisiting after a couple seasons if you're not happy with it. I tore out the badly mildewed vinyl in my boat and threw up a $20 polyester bedsheet for the first season, now I'm replacing it with some PVC foam panels based on what I saw in this thread.

 

[Marcjsmith]

If that is the look you are going for, go for it. Maybe do a test run on piece that you aren't planning on reusing. 

i could break out my inner martha stewart, and do a faux leather finish... 

 

[Marcjsmith]

Nothing wrong with throwing some paint on there now to get sailing, then revisiting after a couple seasons if you're not happy with it. I tore out the badly mildewed vinyl in my boat and threw up a $20 polyester bedsheet for the first season, now I'm replacing it with some PVC foam panels based on what I saw in this thread.

thanks for the link to the thread...

 

[longy]

The 'vinyl' cloth used has a 'furry' inside layer. This hides imperfections in the panel & allows for tight fitting edges as it can compress. I will wager that your existing panels will have 1/8 - 1/4" gaps around the edges to allow for the old vinyl. Test fit! I would definitely consider replacing entirely with a plastic sheet that has the desired cosmetic finish - waterproof, easily cleaned, light.

 

[Marcjsmith]

The 'vinyl' cloth used has a 'furry' inside layer. This hides imperfections in the panel & allows for tight fitting edges as it can compress. I will wager that your existing panels will have 1/8 - 1/4" gaps around the edges to allow for the old vinyl. Test fit! I would definitely consider replacing entirely with a plastic sheet that has the desired cosmetic finish - waterproof, easily cleaned, light.

no doubt about the gaps and less than aesthetic plywood edges.   something with zero maintenance would be nice.   I think short term paint is going to win out.  I still gotta stay somewhat budget conscious

 

[Marcjsmith]

And the hits keep coming.    Ordered ignition switch is close but NQR. So back it goes.

and found something that resembled a sponge but was actually wood...  so more interior removal...

Got the stern running light working, yay

but the bow light needs new wires from the deck gland fitting fished through the pulpit..booo

Got the dinghy mounts reinstalled and bedded was able to trace power to the vicinity of the instruments  yay.  

But no power to the base of the mast for the masthead/steaming/anchor/deck lights...booo

 

[Snarley]

Keep posting this stuff.    It is posts like these that make me stick to houses.   So much easier.      The threads do a great service to show just how much work and skills you will need rehab a boat.  In this case a rather well built boat IMHO.    What do you find next?    Today I found rotting bundles of $20 bills and what appears to be solidified cocaine! 

Thanks

 

[Rain Man]

...    It is posts like these that make me stick to houses.   ...

I don't know about you but I have put way more time into my house projects than my boat projects, which included replacing bulkheads and completely stripping and putting new epoxy bottoms on two boats, and significant interior modifications on one boat.  I have owned boats at least 12 years longer than I have owned a house.

 

[Marcjsmith]

Kent

been down the road on a home fixer upper.  Bathroom, kitchen, floor, roof, siding windows.  Nice thing about homes,  much more room to work on things.  And much better return on investment...

i knew going in I’d have some work to do...  

 

[Steam Flyer]

Working on houses is easier and cheaper until you get to stuff like roofing or digging out old plumbing. That sucks, but you're still not throwing away benjamins to hang upside down with your hair in bilge water while you try to fish wires thru a bulkhead (insert any of 100,000 other impossible tasks here).

People will at least pay real money for the finished product, with houses. When you fix up your house, your wife smiles at you like sunshine.

FB- Doug

 

[SloopJonB]

That sucks, but you're still not throwing away benjamins to hang upside down with your hair in bilge water while you try to fish wires thru a bulkhead

Wires do not belong in the bilge so you probably deserved that.

 

[Steam Flyer]

That sucks, but you're still not throwing away benjamins to hang upside down with your hair in bilge water while you try to fish wires thru a bulkhead

Wires do not belong in the bilge so you probably deserved that.

Hair is poor conductor, too

- DSK