Rib Accident at VOR Lorient Start

MR.CLEAN

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No, what I said is "It's certainly possible for a local french official to try to get criminal charges filed, but given the way this part of the world works, it's highly unlikely," which I still believe. The fact that it actually happened doesn't mean it was likely to.

Back in June you said there was little to no chance of a criminal prosecution
 

Recidivist

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No, what I said is "It's certainly possible for a local french official to try to get criminal charges filed, but given the way this part of the world works, it's highly unlikely," which I still believe. The fact that it actually happened doesn't mean it was likely to.

Back in June you said there was little to no chance of a criminal prosecution
C'mon Clean, this is just embarrassing. You are desperately trying to be right, when you were actually wrong. Sheesh!

 

jack_sparrow

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I would imagine these proceedings are simply about determining incident responsibility and imposing a statutory based penalty against one or both of the parties. Any personal injury claim will be largely dependent on firstly the outcome of those proceedings indicating the RIB driver wasn't at fault and second whether the poor women wants to pursue it. If so then at this stage any 3rd party legal liability insurers will come out of the woodwork if Dona B doesn't write a cheque. Can't see it escalating to criminal.

 
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smackdaddy

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Nice try. But yes, your statement "Even La Dona wouldn't be able to buy off..." can absolutely be construed as a "hint". You should be more judicious with your language.
If you're stupid enough, you can construe anything to fit whatever dumb ass point you are trying to make. Clearly it works for you.
Heh-heh. Just remember, only one of us has ever had to plaster a very expensive public apology on the front page of his website - a scenario that you were certain would never happen. Just trying to help.

Carry on.

 

MR.CLEAN

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Sure you are.

Just trying to help.
The article says 'criminal court'

I would imagine these proceedings are simply about determining incident responsibility and imposing a statutory based penalty against one or both of the parties. Any personal injury claim will be largely dependent on firstly the outcome of those proceedings indicating the RIB driver wasn't at fault and second whether the poor women wants to pursue it. If so then at this stage any 3rd party legal liability insurers will come out of the woodwork if Dona B doesn't write a cheque. Can't see it escalating to criminal.
 

jack_sparrow

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The article says 'criminal court'

I would imagine these proceedings are simply about determining incident responsibility and imposing a statutory based penalty against one or both of the parties. Any personal injury claim will be largely dependent on firstly the outcome of those proceedings indicating the RIB driver wasn't at fault and second whether the poor women wants to pursue it. If so then at this stage any 3rd party legal liability insurers will come out of the woodwork if Dona B doesn't write a cheque. Can't see it escalating to criminal.
While it may be being heard in a Criminal Court that is only because it is not a civil or administrative matter. It is being heard in a mid tier or Correctional Court set aside for less serious matters and misdemenours. The shit would have hit the fan for Dona B's boy if it had started higher, or in this case would have to escalate now up the criminal totem for serious shit to a Criminal Court of Assize or Court of Sessions. I would be surprised if it ends up at that bus stop for what already is acknowledged by the authorities as an unintentional marine incident.

 
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Bernardo20

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The "tribunal correctionnel" where this trial is being held is indeed a criminal court in french law. When you face this court you can end up with a fine or in jail (or with nothing). It's not the worst criminal court in french law (which is "la cour d'assises") but it's still a criminal court.

This type of accident always ends up in the "tribunal correctionnel". The "cour d'assises" is for murders type of crimes. But you can be sentenced to jail in both these courts.

 

Bernardo20

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And the main difference between both is that in France, in the "tribunal correctionnel", the verdict is given by three professionnal judges and in the "cour d'assises" the verdict and the sentence is given by a jury.

One "funny" thing is that the lady injured is in the same hospital as Franck Cammas...

And by the way you should all read the facebook page of the lady (in french but facebook can translate it. It's quite a lesson:

https://www.facebook.com/Le-boudoir-de-Virginie-740665852699541/?ref=br_rs

 

tomasis

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Nice try. But yes, your statement "Even La Dona wouldn't be able to buy off..." can absolutely be construed as a "hint". You should be more judicious with your language.
If you're stupid enough, you can construe anything to fit whatever dumb ass point you are trying to make. Clearly it works for you.
Heh-heh. Just remember, only one of us has ever had to plaster a very expensive public apology on the front page of his website - a scenario that you were certain would never happen. Just trying to help.

Carry on.
Watching Trump's campaign too much?

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jack_sparrow

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Clean

Could you please provide further details of the "big cash settlement from Donna B".

Thanks in advance
Fuckwit...and Clean ain't my Daddy unless he married a Belgian prostitute named Chloe.

 
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Yann Guichard in Court Regarding Spindrift 2 Accident :

[...] At the end of requisitions, the prosecution represented by the Attorney Laureline Peyrefitte, asked for a minimum sentence of 6 months suspended against the skipper of multihull racing, along with a fine of 20 000 euros and publication the conviction in the press. [...]

The judgment was reserved.

From Scuttlbutt article : http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2016/06/28/yann-guichard-in-court-regarding-spindrift-2-accident/

More details (in French) in this article from L'Équipe :

http://www.lequipe.fr/Voile/Actualites/Prison-avec-sursis-requise-contre-yann-guichard/700228

 

Cement_Shoes

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Yann Guichard in Court Regarding Spindrift 2 Accident :

[...] At the end of requisitions, the prosecution represented by the Attorney Laureline Peyrefitte, asked for a minimum sentence of 6 months suspended against the skipper of multihull racing, along with a fine of 20 000 euros and publication the conviction in the press. [...]

The judgment was reserved.

From Scuttlbutt article : http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2016/06/28/yann-guichard-in-court-regarding-spindrift-2-accident/

More details (in French) in this article from L'Équipe :

http://www.lequipe.fr/Voile/Actualites/Prison-avec-sursis-requise-contre-yann-guichard/700228
The SB article says that a reserved judgment is one not yet rendered. The case made is being looked at and the verdict is pending, expected in approximately 2 weeks.

 
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