RORC Caribbean 600

thalattaII

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Just logged on to follow the race on my phone and YB has a pay wall for the mobile app for this race. What a kick in the pants. Maybe if they gave you something more than just the tracker it would be worth it.

 

MR.CLEAN

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Comanche eaten alive by MOD 70!

Tris are sailing 50 % faster on the Barbuda leg.
Is this a surprise or something? I'm certainly no sailing expert, but the fact that the mod 70s are faster than ANY monohull does not really seem all that newsworthy to me. Am I missing something??
always newsworthy when a brand new 30-million dollar monster gets eaten alive by a boat from the bargain bin

 

J/120

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I don't know the players, but I highly doubt Comanche was built with the goal of beating MOD 70's, nor did it even cross their mind. Just my guess.

 

us7070

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does anybody have a link to the SI's?

can't find it on the web site

i'm actually looking for the url low bandwidth position reports

 

CrushDigital

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Come on Clean, crap comparisons between racing monos and multis are just that, crap. We all know the Mod70 is going to be faster, which is cool, but that doesn't in any way, shape, or form negate the awesomeness of the canting maxis and other big offshore monos.

It's like comparing a running back and a 100m sprinter. Yes they are both people who run very fast as part of athletic competitions, but the similarities really end there.

 

Bow Junkie

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"Break-break"

"Pan-Pan"

"Pan-Pan"

"Pan-Pan"

"Hello all stations this is the Barbudan Coast Guard Station St. John's"

"Barbudan Coast Guard Station St. John's"

"Barbudan Coast Guard Station St. John's"

"At 1645 local Antiguan time, S/V Phaedo was last seen off Nives at position one seven degrees one three decimal one zero minutes north, zero six two degrees four seven decimal three eight minutes west, as the vessel reached exit velocity and is assumed to have entered low earth orbit."

"All mariners are requested to keep a sharp lookout and a watchful eye for a touchdown in the area of Anguilla as they turn upwind and begin to slow."

 
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Braddw25

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Comanche eaten alive by MOD 70!

Tris are sailing 50 % faster on the Barbuda leg.
Is this a surprise or something? I'm certainly no sailing expert, but the fact that the mod 70s are faster than ANY monohull does not really seem all that newsworthy to me. Am I missing something??
always newsworthy when a brand new 30-million dollar monster gets eaten alive by a boat from the bargain bin
A 4 million dollar boat is from the bargain bin? I don't know, its just my opinion but I find both types of boats to be impressive in their own ways and I enjoy both the by monohulls and the super fast multis. I don't find it to be a shortcoming when an high tech high dollar monohull gets outrun by a multihull. Both types of boats are awesome to me as a fan of sailing.

But anyway, to get back on topic, I just noticed on the tracker that they have ghost boats showing up now. What is the purpose of those? Are they there to show the position of the record holders were at the same time as the current boats are being shown?? I noticed that one of them shows Phaedo3 from last year and the other is showing Rambler 100 from 2011. Would they be the record holders for this race? If so it appears that Comanche is ahead of where Rambler was for the monohull record. Very cool if they can make a run at it this year.

 

MR.CLEAN

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Comanche eaten alive by MOD 70!

Tris are sailing 50 % faster on the Barbuda leg.
Is this a surprise or something? I'm certainly no sailing expert, but the fact that the mod 70s are faster than ANY monohull does not really seem all that newsworthy to me. Am I missing something??
always newsworthy when a brand new 30-million dollar monster gets eaten alive by a boat from the bargain bin
A 4 million dollar boat is from the bargain bin? I don't know, its just my opinion but I find both types of boats to be impressive in their own ways and I enjoy both the by monohulls and the super fast multis. I don't find it to be a shortcoming when an high tech high dollar monohull gets outrun by a multihull. Both types of boats are awesome to me as a fan of sailing.
1) Phaedo cost less than half that. For a record-breaker, yeah - that's the bargain bin.

2) I find it hard to be impressed with a boat that isn't even close to the fastest one there when it costs an order of magnitude more and weighs as much as a hose. Comanche is quicker than a J Class Yacht, but to me she is just as obsolete. Cool looking and obviously fast for a monohull, but from an era when logic and efficiency was less important than power and grunt, befitting her septuagenarian owner.

3) Opinions vary, and plenty of guys like big curvy' girls. I happen to like 'em lean.

 
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Braddw25

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Comanche eaten alive by MOD 70!

Tris are sailing 50 % faster on the Barbuda leg.
Is this a surprise or something? I'm certainly no sailing expert, but the fact that the mod 70s are faster than ANY monohull does not really seem all that newsworthy to me. Am I missing something??
always newsworthy when a brand new 30-million dollar monster gets eaten alive by a boat from the bargain bin
A 4 million dollar boat is from the bargain bin? I don't know, its just my opinion but I find both types of boats to be impressive in their own ways and I enjoy both the by monohulls and the super fast multis. I don't find it to be a shortcoming when an high tech high dollar monohull gets outrun by a multihull. Both types of boats are awesome to me as a fan of sailing.
1) Phaedo cost less than half that. For a record-breaker, yeah - that's the bargain bin.

2) I find it hard to be impressed with a boat that isn't even close to the fastest one there when it costs an order of magnitude more and weighs as much as a hose. Comanche is quicker than a J Class Yacht, but to me she is just as obsolete. Cool looking and obviously fast for a monohull, but from an era when logic and efficiency was less important than power and grunt, befitting her septuagenarian owner.

3) Opinions vary, and plenty of guys like big curvy' girls. I happen to like 'em lean.
I'm not sure when Phaedo was constructed, but according to this article, the first 5 mod70s were sold for $3.5 Million which was actually below cost, boats 6-9 sold for $4.25 Million and subsequent boats for $5 Million. None of those are less than half of the $4 Million figure I cited. Regardless, in my opinion they are awesome boats as are the big Maxi's like Comanche.

http://www.sailingworld.com/sailboats/mod-squad

 
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JohnSang

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A handful of the old guys will go multi (look at the Newport M32 fleet for a few early adopters), but most will probably find something more their speed and let the megaprograms fade away and do just a handful of regional races a year like the Perpetual Loyal. Some are already into the J/Class or classic yacht racing anyway.

The next guys are already on deck in the USA. Lloyd T, Renaud L, Jason C, Don W - these are the future record and line honors chasers, and they will inspire the next generations with their antics on multihull sailing porn. Europe is obviously light years ahead in many ways, but the yanks are catching up. Aussies have their TVS and TA and some money and will to move forward, but the CYCA restrictions against multihulls for Australia's most important race means that they never have the kind of resources or competition they need to challenge on a world stage.

MOD 70s got a whole lot more expensive last year though thanks to all the records dropping in such a (relatively) small and simple boat.
Foiling across the oceans is next. Stay tuned. https://youtu.be/eKDjEfzGYIg

 




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