Route du Rhum 2014

[oioi]

Good to see Miranda merron as top woman and brit. Plus in front of halvard...

 

[mjwills]

Good to see Miranda merron as top woman and brit. Plus in front of halvard...

+1 - Great to see - she has been steadily clawing her way towards the front over the last 24 hrs. Good to see Conrad Humphries back on the track as well after a quick pit-stop (sail repairs I think?)

 

[Laurent]

Loick said he nearly capsize last night. He fall asleep while driving, and then pull the tiller, he wake up when the boat was high in the air....just in time to release the sheet.

Full report from routedurhum.com translated below:

Loïck Peyron (Ultime) : Good news!

« The sea state starts to soften a bit : it is the best news we got in the last 48 hours ! It is still very rough though, very much so. The wind strength is still very unstable: from 25 to 40 knots in the squalls and I am always tuning the auto pilot. The sailing conditions so far have been hellish. But last night, it got better: we have moonlight, a few clouds, not too many boats, the fun part is going to start. It can only get better. By tomorrow, it will be much more comfortable. I have spent a lot of time at the helm, and even with this very wide boat, I almost capsized, falling asleep at the helm: falling off, I made the boat bear away. By the time I got everything in order again, I gained a few more gray hair! »

 

[grperrin]

Olmix hit by lightning; skipper Pierre Antoine is OK but has been airlifted off the boat... water ingress in main hull.

 

[mad]

Coville interview below :

http://www.letelegramme.fr/voile/route-du-rhum/route-du-rhum-en-images-l-arrivee-de-coville-a-roscoff-03-11-2014-10410946.php

For me clearly he didn't manage his priorities very well ...

Yup, but I just hope it doesn't turn into a blame game. I am sure many of these sailors have made that type of error last night, but they were lucky enough that it only meant a good fright but no damage.

Agree but I w[SIZE=13.63636302948px]atched the interview and I don't think he looked into the camera once, seemed to be avoiding it. Fully understand he's very upset, stressed and tired but that's not good[/SIZE]

And the blame game starts.

There were several cameras from various media and he was answering to a group of journalists not one in particular. In short, it wasn't an interview but an impromptu press conference. And it is bloody professional from him to answer questions so frankly in those circumstances, he hadn't even stepped off the boat yet!

Laurent

Can you put some english sub titles to the interview with Thomas Colville?

 

[teamvmg]

Peyron almost lost it last night, but that's behind him - he's doing 30knots now!

 

[edouard]

Coville interview below :

http://www.letelegramme.fr/voile/route-du-rhum/route-du-rhum-en-images-l-arrivee-de-coville-a-roscoff-03-11-2014-10410946.php

For me clearly he didn't manage his priorities very well ...

Yup, but I just hope it doesn't turn into a blame game. I am sure many of these sailors have made that type of error last night, but they were lucky enough that it only meant a good fright but no damage.

Agree but I w[SIZE=13.63636302948px]atched the interview and I don't think he looked into the camera once, seemed to be avoiding it. Fully understand he's very upset, stressed and tired but that's not good[/SIZE]

And the blame game starts.

There were several cameras from various media and he was answering to a group of journalists not one in particular. In short, it wasn't an interview but an impromptu press conference. And it is bloody professional from him to answer questions so frankly in those circumstances, he hadn't even stepped off the boat yet!

Laurent

Can you put some english sub titles to the interview with Thomas Colville?

I don't have Laurent's skills, so I will just give you an "off" translation:

- Opening sequence: (Distraught voice addressing journalists waiting for him as he arrives) Guys, it's indescribable what you are asking me to do here.

- Wide shot of Sodebo Ultim, off camera voice: Well first: I feel like I just went through a car accident. I have the impression I just hit a truck with a motorcycle.

- Back to him on cam: (Trying to collect himself, searching for his words) I was leaving the shipping lane ... I was going real fast ... I had had a small problem at the bow during the night and had decided to push again and I think I was catching up with Loick ... I was comfortable. That's when I had a low batteries alarm from the generator. I went inside because I was surprised to hear that after only 8 hours. I went inside (below in main hull I suspect because he says he went 'down inside'), saw nothing was wrong and went back out. I saw at that point on the screen ... you understand on these boats at these speeds we don't see much especially at night in squalls we rely on AIS and radar screens ... we basically work like airplane pilots in those conditions: on instruments only ... I had seen there were two ships ... my autopilot was in "wind" mode where the boat has a somewhat unpredictable (in terms of heading ndlr) trajectory ... I am at 25kts the ship is at 18kts ... we have a closing speed of 40kts ... the couple of miles separating us are covered in less than two minutes ... I was monitoring my generators rpm when I suddenly saw a black wall in front of me. I hit him a few meters from the stern...

The rest is very emotional. You feel he is just gutted for his team and all those you supported him.

Throughout the whole sequence, journalists don't interrupt him and let him pour it out. One of them has the right reflex and simply says "Merci Thomas" as concluding remark.

 

[TheDragon]

Olmix hit by lightning; skipper Pierre Antoine is OK but has been airlifted off the boat... water ingress in main hull.

So the leading Class40 boat, GDF SUEZ with Sabastian Rogues, was asked to divert to OLMIX position and stayed there till Antoine was airlifted off. He thereby fell to third in the rankings with others closing on him. How on earth does the race committee compensate him for this?

 

[eoerl]

Olmix hit by lightning; skipper Pierre Antoine is OK but has been airlifted off the boat... water ingress in main hull.

So the leading Class40 boat, GDF SUEZ with Sabastian Rogues, was asked to divert to OLMIX position and stayed there till Antoine was airlifted off. He thereby fell to third in the rankings with others closing on him. How on earth does the race committee compensate him for this?

Looking at previous speeds, routage, etc.. He was the closest boat and OLMIX has a major water leak, it makes sense to me that safety for her skipper comes before any kind of competition..

 

[edouard]

Olmix hit by lightning; skipper Pierre Antoine is OK but has been airlifted off the boat... water ingress in main hull.

So the leading Class40 boat, GDF SUEZ with Sabastian Rogues, was asked to divert to OLMIX position and stayed there till Antoine was airlifted off. He thereby fell to third in the rankings with others closing on him. How on earth does the race committee compensate him for this?

Basically the same way race committees have always given redress , estimate the time lost.

It's not perfect, but what else do you suggest? That "the show must go on whatever happens" and that Sebastian should just have sailed by yelling "sorry mate I'm here to race not to help you, got anything you want to say to your potential widow if everything goes wrong?"

I know this place is called Sailing Anarchy, but many here really seem to understand only the Anarchy part.

 

[mad]

Coville interview below :

http://www.letelegramme.fr/voile/route-du-rhum/route-du-rhum-en-images-l-arrivee-de-coville-a-roscoff-03-11-2014-10410946.php

For me clearly he didn't manage his priorities very well ...

Yup, but I just hope it doesn't turn into a blame game. I am sure many of these sailors have made that type of error last night, but they were lucky enough that it only meant a good fright but no damage.

Agree but I w[SIZE=13.63636302948px]atched the interview and I don't think he looked into the camera once, seemed to be avoiding it. Fully understand he's very upset, stressed and tired but that's not good[/SIZE]

And the blame game starts.

There were several cameras from various media and he was answering to a group of journalists not one in particular. In short, it wasn't an interview but an impromptu press conference. And it is bloody professional from him to answer questions so frankly in those circumstances, he hadn't even stepped off the boat yet!

Laurent

Can you put some english sub titles to the interview with Thomas Colville?

I don't have Laurent's skills, so I will just give you an "off" translation:

- Opening sequence: (Distraught voice addressing journalists waiting for him as he arrives) Guys, it's indescribable what you are asking me to do here.

- Wide shot of Sodebo Ultim, off camera voice: Well first: I feel like I just went through a car accident. I have the impression I just hit a truck with a motorcycle.

- Back to him on cam: (Trying to collect himself, searching for his words) I was leaving the shipping lane ... I was going real fast ... I had had a small problem at the bow during the night and had decided to push again and I think I was catching up with Loick ... I was comfortable. That's when I had a low batteries alarm from the generator. I went inside because I was surprised to hear that after only 8 hours. I went inside (below in main hull I suspect because he says he went 'down inside'), saw nothing was wrong and went back out. I saw at that point on the screen ... you understand on these boats at these speeds we don't see much especially at night in squalls we rely on AIS and radar screens ... we basically work like airplane pilots in those conditions: on instruments only ... I had seen there were two ships ... my autopilot was in "wind" mode where the boat has a somewhat unpredictable (in terms of heading ndlr) trajectory ... I am at 25kts the ship is at 18kts ... we have a closing speed of 40kts ... the couple of miles separating us are covered in less than two minutes ... I was monitoring my generators rpm when I suddenly saw a black wall in front of me. I hit him a few meters from the stern...

The rest is very emotional. You feel he is just gutted for his team and all those you supported him.

Throughout the whole sequence, journalists don't interrupt him and let him pour it out. One of them has the right reflex and simply says "Merci Thomas" as concluding remark.

Thanks edouard

 

[Keith]

Good too see Idec is moving up a few positions...

With the better sea state and more stable wind conditions, we will start to see these guys really push the big tris.

 

[LeoV]

Anyone some backgroundstory of Thibaut Vauchel Camus ?

One year on a Class 40, Hydroptere crew, long list of victories in the F18 cat.

Impressive ranking so far.

Rogues,

changed course at 1040 on the tracker, appears again 1352, travelled 17 miles in between.
While competitors did 15 knts,

So roughly 3 hrs, 45 M lost, but did 17 M, equals 1 hour.

So redress 2 hrs.

He lost some leverage, 10 M more south, harder to quantify.

So around 2.5 hrs is my guess, will be wrong

 

[Icedtea]

Why's he getting a redress?

 

[TheDragon]

Olmix hit by lightning; skipper Pierre Antoine is OK but has been airlifted off the boat... water ingress in main hull.

So the leading Class40 boat, GDF SUEZ with Sabastian Rogues, was asked to divert to OLMIX position and stayed there till Antoine was airlifted off. He thereby fell to third in the rankings with others closing on him. How on earth does the race committee compensate him for this?

Basically the same way race committees have always given redress , estimate the time lost.

It's not perfect, but what else do you suggest? That "the show must go on whatever happens" and that Sebastian should just have sailed by yelling "sorry mate I'm here to race not to help you, got anything you want to say to your potential widow if everything goes wrong?"

I know this place is called Sailing Anarchy, but many here really seem to understand only the Anarchy part.

Easy there big guy, I'm all for him being asked to help and agreeing to do so, just wondering how they figure out compensation. No Anarchy, just asking.

Thanks LeoV for trying to work it out. Be interesting to see what they do.

 

[TheDragon]

Why's he getting a redress?

See above, although I've yet to see anything on their website about redress, although they must surely offer some since they asked him to divert and standby and he did it.

 

[QBF]

Here is a photo of Alessandro Di Benedetto's Team Plastique during the Route du Rhum.

This photo is from the Route du Rhum's Twitter feed.

 

[teamvmg]

ooer. Remember the Fauconnier/Poupon redress issue?

 

[TheDragon]

Okay, so now a stupid question. The big trimarans seem able to get down to the trades around the Canary islands in time to avoid the light patch predicted just north of the Canaries. But the IMOCAs are not trying for that, instead it looks like they will take their medicine ahead of the next front and then ride it down to the trades. Am I on the right track here?

 

[LeoV]

This one ?

Another tale of the high seas occurred in The Transat (former Ostar) this time: In 1984, Yvon Fauconnier went to the rescue of Philippe Jeantot after his capsize. The second to cross the finish line, ten hours and thirty minutes after Philippe Poupon, the skipper of Umupro-Jardin was proclaimed winner of this edition, since the jury had quite logically redressed the sixteen hours spent helping Philippe Jeantot.

source:http://www.gitana-team.com/en/event.news.aspx?eventid=27&newsid=319

Bottom part.