Roy Moore 3rd rail?

[Bus Driver]

I like to hear BOTH sides of the story with an open mind.  I don't harbor knee jerk tendencies either.   Emotional decisions are poor decisions.  

Have you not heard both sides of this story? 

Several women have shared their stories.  Others have corroborated their allegations.  We have reports that he was banned from a mall for this behavior.

Judge Moore does not deny trying to date teenage girls while in his 30s, though he thought it important to mention he always asked permission from their mothers.

There are "both sides".  What more do you need?

 

[Dog]

One upping Moore. I really hope this is fake news, but then again, it is Florida -

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/bob-coy-founder-of-calvary-chapel-fort-lauderdale-accused-of-molesting-child-9827948


Founder of Florida's Biggest Megachurch Accused of Molesting a 4-Year-Old


The call came from California. A woman told Coral Springs Police she had recently learned something terrible: A South Florida man had molested her daughter for years. It began when the girl was just 4 years old.

An officer noted the information and called the victim, who was then a teenager. She confirmed in stomach- churning detail. The man had forced her to perform oral sex, she said. He would regularly "finger and fondle her" genitals, make her touch his penis, and "dirty talk" to her. The abuse lasted until she was a teenager, she told the cop. She'd never even told her family about the crimes.

All to plausible. Check out "The Keepers" on netflix for an stunning expose into what the holy among us are capable of doing.

 

[Bus Driver]

How could someone with those alleged tendencies advance in their career to the point of running for senate unless a lot of people around him were the same, tolerant, and or complicit.   If the allegations are true it's just the tip of the iceberg.

I don't think anyone is disputing the corrupt nature of people in power.  It's a big part of how they hold on to that power.

Since you've heard both sides, and that is what you said you require, are you willing to take a stand?

 

[Raz'r]

Yeah, and what about Kennedy. Democrats proudly put Ted Kennedy in the senate term after term without a second thought. Called him "The Lion of the Senate". Fucking worshiped the asshole. Think they would apply the same standard to a Republican? not likely. Is Massachusetts deplorable? nooooo  Massachusetts is exemplary, Alabama's deplorable. It's not that Moore is worthy, he's not, it's just that so much of what I'm reading here is simply opportunist holier than thou shit.

It sucks when norms change don’t it, eh Dog? You should start your support of Weinstein and Spacey anytime now...

 

[Dog]

It sucks when norms change don’t it, eh Dog? You should start your support of Weinstein and Spacey anytime now...

Why should I, you already have with your norms change defense. Answer me this, when was involuntary manslaughter considered moral? That's what Teddy would have faced but for the fact that he was a Kennedy.

 

[Raz'r]

Why should I, you already have with your norms change defense. Answer me this, when was involuntary manslaughter considered moral? That's what Teddy would have faced but for the fact that he was a Kennedy.

Can’t say I ever voted for Kennedy, and I’ve been pretty critical of American dynasties like bush and Clinton. Kennedy’s were a bit before my time.

maybe we should talk about Roosevelt. A cripple who banged his secretary...

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

I like to hear BOTH sides of the story with an open mind.  I don't harbor knee jerk tendencies either.   Emotional decisions are poor decisions.  

OK, how about something verified?

Moore...has argued repeatedly that Rep. Keith Ellison should not be allowed to serve in Congress because he is a Muslim.

Disqualifying all by itself. Even if he were not a creep. Even if there were not other political issues.

 

[Raz'r]

Why should I, you already have with your norms change defense. Answer me this, when was involuntary manslaughter considered moral? That's what Teddy would have faced but for the fact that he was a Kennedy.

Tell ya what, use the Rush justification of “he was a democrat when he fiddled with young girls” justification and you can feel good about not supporting the team on this one.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

Why should I, you already have with your norms change defense. Answer me this, when was involuntary manslaughter considered moral? That's what Teddy would have faced but for the fact that he was a Kennedy.

If given the choice of a Republican who did what Kennedy did or a Democrat, for whom would you vote?

 

[Dog]

Tell ya what, use the Rush justification of “he was a democrat when he fiddled with young girls” justification and you can feel good about not supporting the team on this one.

I've stipulated that Judge Moore is unfit, I hope he steps down. Now I'm just happy to knock you pious libs off your moral high horse.

Do you, like many of your ilk, consider Alabama deplorable?

 

[Dog]

If given the choice of a Republican who did what Kennedy did or a Democrat, for whom would you vote?

I acknowledge the insult implicit in your question and choose not to dignify it.

 

[Bus Driver]

I've stipulated that Judge Moore is unfit, I hope he steps down. Now I'm just happy to knock you pious libs off your moral high horse.

Do you, like many of your ilk, consider Alabama deplorable?

I find the folks, from Alabama and elsewhere, who continue to support Judge Moore to be deplorable.

 

[Clove Hitch]

Yeah, and what about Kennedy. Democrats proudly put Ted Kennedy in the senate term after term without a second thought. Called him "The Lion of the Senate". Fucking worshiped the asshole. Think they would apply the same standard to a Republican? not likely. Is Massachusetts deplorable? nooooo  Massachusetts is exemplary, Alabama's deplorable. It's not that Moore is worthy, he's not, it's just that so much of what I'm reading here is simply opportunist holier than thou shit.

It's not that you defend a pervert, it's just that you deflect every chance you get. 

 

[Raz'r]

I've stipulated that Judge Moore is unfit, I hope he steps down. Now I'm just happy to knock you pious libs off your moral high horse.

Do you, like many of your ilk, consider Alabama deplorable?

Let’s see how they vote, shall we?

 

[2slow]

Living next to Alabama, I have been there dozens of times.  The state has pedos, drug addicts, murderers, rapists, racists, Baman fans, Auburn fans and I am sure some nice people.

 

[Dog]

It's not that you defend a pervert, it's just that you deflect every chance you get. 

To the degree that you make this a left-right or Dem-Rep issue, you're fair game.

 

[Clove Hitch]

To the degree that you make this a left-right or Dem-Rep issue, you're fair game.

You're making it a left--right issue.

I haven't seen any liberals defending Ted or defending clinton's use of power/authority to screw a big-boned intern. 

 

[Clove Hitch]

To the degree that you make this a left-right or Dem-Rep issue, you're fair game.

By the way this is for you -

Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,[1][2][3] which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.[7][8][9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

 

[Sean]

I acknowledge the insult implicit in your question and choose not to dignify it.

Go ahead Dog, little chance your response would offer any dignity. 

 

[Dog]

You're making it a left--right issue.

I haven't seen any liberals defending Ted or defending clinton's use of power/authority to screw a big-boned intern. 

Oh I see...You and your ilk don't defend the Ted Kennedy's or the Bill Clinton's in your party....You just elect them to high office.