Roy Moore 3rd rail?

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Sean

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kmacdonald said:
Well girls, I told you Alabama would do the right thing, but no, you had to shit on them.  You should be ashamed.  Just goes to show how far your heads are up your ass. 
The fact that 49% of the votes cast were for the shitstain is not exactly high praise. That said, I’m pleasantly surprised that, at the end of the day, enough Alabamians did do the right thing. 

 

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 I think that's the nut of it. The big loser is Bannon. One of the commentators on the Tee Vee commented that if you gathered together all the R consultants a year ago and tasked them with finding a way to lose one of the senate seats from AL they would have been at a loss, but Steve Bannon found a way to do it.... 

  Bannon fought Trump to get Moore in over Strange, and then encouraged Trump to fight for Moore. Bannon stepped on a lot of OG toes on the way up. In show biz them's the peeps ya gotta deal with on your way down. I expect they are sharpening their shivs in preparation for welcoming him back to the ol' cell block.   
Exactly.  I think Steve Bannon has been drinking his own Kool-Aide for so long, he honestly believes the fascist nazi shit he spews from out of his media corp.  Furthermore, somewhere along the line, he started to believe that more Americans believe his shit, when in reality, they don't.  How the GOP even got associated with that ass clown is beyond me.  One can only hope that their association with him backfires, and they have to re-brand.  Because with him anywhere near the helm, he takes an already far right GOP, waaaaaay right of center.  With any luck, the GOP will realize they need to distance themselves from his crap, and go back to center.  Sure, that will cost them the Neo Nazi vote, but maybe if they stop pandering to those wackos, they can get back to actually legislating policy that will be good for the country.

In a way, maybe, just maybe, Bannon et al. will actually turn out to be good for the nation.  Just not nearly in the way they imagined.

 

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It's a big deal that Jones won, I think it is a great thing for 'Bama. I don't know if this necessarily indicates the first step in a shift in their politics, but if that state continues to prosper, then maybe?

I love Alabama, the folks there do pretty well with each other. Yeah, it took a bunch of very bad Republican politics to let this happen, but it did happen. And if Jones can do some difficult political work and bring development and some pork into the state (even with 30% of the efficacy of Senator Shelby who is a development heavyweight) then he'll keep the job.

Things change, I'm bullish on Bama.
It will be good for them.  Doug Jones will be able to attract businesses to Alabama and do real good for everyone in the state. Moore would have done on hell of a job at keeping any business from ever going near the place.

It IS a win for them, but kind of like racing a guy with boat half sunk and ripped sails, edging him out by 5 seconds at the finish is still a win, but not what you would have hoped would happen ;)

 

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I went to Brietbart for the first time- what a shit hole crazy place.  The comments are delicious, though.  What is a "fake forgery?" Does that mean it's real?

 
richard  14 hours ago





Hey RINOs, we're making lists of those of you who are cheering the election loss of a patriot and a good man. That way we won't forget to vote you out of office when you're up for reelection








truther  richard  14 hours ago





Roy Moore barely lost because the media and uniparty used the fake forgery against him. 
I think we just need to find other MAGA candidates without anything that can be used against him.












 

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Exactly.  I think Steve Bannon has been drinking his own Kool-Aide for so long, he honestly believes the fascist nazi shit he spews from out of his media corp.  Furthermore, somewhere along the line, he started to believe that more Americans believe his shit, when in reality, they don't.  How the GOP even got associated with that ass clown is beyond me.  One can only hope that their association with him backfires, and they have to re-brand.  Because with him anywhere near the helm, he takes an already far right GOP, waaaaaay right of center.  With any luck, the GOP will realize they need to distance themselves from his crap, and go back to center.  Sure, that will cost them the Neo Nazi vote, but maybe if they stop pandering to those wackos, they can get back to actually legislating policy that will be good for the country.

In a way, maybe, just maybe, Bannon et al. will actually turn out to be good for the nation.  Just not nearly in the way they imagined.
I believe the mechanism for Bannon's power is in who actually shows up to vote in R primaries. Practically nobody but energized people. IOW: Fanatics. The parties have largely turned their primaries over to populism. We treat primaries as elections now but it was not always so. This system is entirely workable but not with only 1% of the population participating in it. The fabled smoke-filled rooms of old were of course rife with varying levels of  corruption but also served to vet candidates with people who had a fucking clue. But I digress...

  The talk radio, screech media world is who fanatics tune into for information. The holy quest to get rid of one sort of corruption opened the door to another. When people get sick and tired of that kind they will change it again. "Wolf closest to the door." Note that when R politicians decide they must speak their minds the first thing they do is abandon all hope of running for re-election. They know they will be "primary-ed" by the Bannons of the party for blasphemy.  

 

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I believe the mechanism for Bannon's power is in who actually shows up to vote in R primaries. Practically nobody but energized people. IOW: Fanatics. The parties have largely turned their primaries over to populism. We treat primaries as elections now but it was not always so. This system is entirely workable but not with only 1% of the population participating in it. The fabled smoke-filled rooms of old were of course rife with varying levels of  corruption but also served to vet candidates with people who had a fucking clue. But I digress...

  The talk radio, screech media world is who fanatics tune into for information. The holy quest to get rid of one sort of corruption opened the door to another. When people get sick and tired of that kind they will change it again. "Wolf closest to the door." Note that when R politicians decide they must speak their minds the first thing they do is abandon all hope of running for re-election. They know they will be "primary-ed" by the Bannons of the party for blasphemy.  
Bannon  conceded that the DNC had more boots on the ground and that was why Jones won.  A pollical journalist replied bull, it’s becaus he has no clue what he’s doing as a strategist. It’s like he goes to the plate with a football helmet on and a basketball in his hands

 

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kmacdonald said:
You guys think the electorate watches politics 24/7/365 like you guys.  Let me let you in on a secret, they don't.  Most don't even really care who gets elected since it never makes any difference to them.  Get over it, it's not that big of a deal.
looser

 

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kmacdonald said:
You guys think the electorate watches politics 24/7/365 like you guys.  Let me let you in on a secret, they don't.  Most don't even really care who gets elected since it never makes any difference to them.  Get over it, it's not that big of a deal.
sounds like you need some Beudreaux's

 

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kmacdonald said:
You guys think the electorate watches politics 24/7/365 like you guys.  Let me let you in on a secret, they don't.  Most don't even really care who gets elected since it never makes any difference to them.  Get over it, it's not that big of a deal.
The fact that many Americans are politically illiterate and politically lazy are big factors in why we get candidates like Moore, clowns like Trump win, and legislation like "tax reform" is likely to pass without almost anyone on The Hill knowing what is in it.

 

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How revealing.

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"A former senior aide to Rep. Blake Farenthold has approached the House Ethics Committee to share a damning account of working for the Texas Republican, with the intent of describing the congressman as verbally abusive and sexually demeaning -- and his congressional office as an intensely hostile environment that drove the aide to physical and emotional distress. Michael Rekola, who was Farenthold's communications director in 2015, described in an interview with CNN new details of the congressman's abusive behavior. It ranged from making sexually graphic jokes to berating aides -- bullying that Rekola says led him to seek medical treatment and psychological counseling, and at one point, caused him to vomit daily.One comment from the congressman was especially personal. Rekola was about to leave town to get married in July 2015, when, he said, Farenthold, standing within earshot of other staffers in his Capitol Hill office, said to the groom-to-be: "Better have your fiancée blow you before she walks down the aisle -- it will be the last time." He then proceeded to joke about whether Rekola's now-wife could wear white on her wedding day -- a clear reference, Rekola said, to whether she had had premarital sex. "I was disgusted and I left. I walked out," Rekola said. Almost immediately after returning from his wedding, he gave his two-weeks notice. "

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politics/blake-farenthold-accusations/index.html

 
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