S2 7.9 - Exploding Daggerboard!

[Looper]

You may want to check with the class association as they may know of a board that could be laying around.  Nationals are in Holland next week.  You better bet that i'm going to dive and inspect the shit out of mine before i put it on the trailer.

 

[dfw_sailor]

Great. Went to bed just a normal guy looking for advice and woke up a cheater. 

Lake Ray Hubbard in Texas. We had a hell of a freeze back in Feb, but the lake never froze over.

No way would I try to fix this myself. Leaving it to the professionals. My wife (aside from having great tits) makes good money. So, all good there!

Depends where on the lake. I had to repeatedly break 3 - 4" ice encapsulating the boat at Captains Cove.

 

[DA-WOODY]

Bottom was clean. Good divers are hard to find in these parts. I like our guy. Just don't think he understands sailboats.

Funny thing is we never noticed a pointing problem. Just slow. Really slow.

I've been floating around SA since close to the beginning. I, as well as my wife, laughed at the tit request. Guess we need to grow up too.

We lost by 1 Hour and 15 minutes. The dude that won the race was Jeff Progelhof. Current J22 World Champion skipper. So, I think we will still have our work cut out for us once we get this all figured out.

Fred has been contacted.

You ever comin back to DAGO ?

haven't seen Pop's since he moved to Better Weather & More Parties

 

[Grrr...]

What local rules allow lifting the board?

The boat has been sailing with a lifting dagger board since it's inception.   It is explicitly allowed in class racing, and there is no rule explicitly states you can't lift it in handicap racing.  That is the way it has been rated in every handicap system.  It is no different than Tartans with centerboards, or any other boat that has a feature like that:  the handicap accounts for it.  This is not a lifting keel designed to only lift for transport.  It is a lifting key designed to be raced up or down.

This question has been asked and answered dozens of times, and most always raised by people who hear about and suddenly scream "that's not fair"  and want to decide that THAT'S why they got beat on the race course.  The fact remains, arbitrarily applying a non-existent rule to prevent lifting the keel would be a random penalization to a boat that's already been rated with the ability to lift it.  It's just stupid.

If you weren't such a shit-stirring twat, you could have done a search and found that out yourself without the obvious accusations.

 

[Sail4beer]

Any orcas around those parts?

 

[Bitter Gnat]

Hey Dennis. Moving back to SD is beyond our means at the moment, besides we are having too much fun here. Can't you tell?

Cliffy is still living the life in Lake Havasu. He was supposed to come out to SDYC for Opening Day, but had a Pickle Ball tournament!

The wife & I will be heading your way for the Women's Invitational in February. We will see you at Fiddlers!

 

[Grrr...]

Any orcas around those parts?

An orca would swallow a 7.9 whole =)

 

[Sail4beer]

:lol:

 

[Grrr...]

Oh, if you need a board for Holland, give me a DM.  I'm on the east side of the state but I'm sure we could figure something out. 

 

[Bitter Gnat]

Depends where on the lake. I had to repeatedly break 3 - 4" ice encapsulating the boat at Captains Cove.

She was in the water on A Dock at RCYC. It's about 35 feet deep there.  The damage to the keel would have been about two feet or more down. 

 

[DA-WOODY]

She was in the water on A Dock at RCYC. It's about 35 feet deep there.  The damage to the keel would have been about two feet or more down. 

could a keel with water stored in Up position in Freezing weather freeze said water

w/o freezing the Pond ??

I shall be the 1st to admit I know Nothing about actual Kold

 

[Sail4beer]

Fill a tray to almost the top with water and put in the freezer overnight. It will have expanded and frozen over the top. Do that with a compromised closed cell foam and ‘glass skin structure and the accumulated water will do the same under 32degrees. 
 

Improperly winterized engine blocks crack if they are not filled with antifreeze for the winter months in colder climes.

 

[Bitter Gnat]

Yup. Water expands when it freezes. 

But, expanding on what I've said above, the boat was in a deep water slip with the board all the way down. The bottom of the boat is 14 inches from the water line. The damage begins at least six inches below the point where the board exits the boat. Our lake does not freeze over. 

 

[Elliot33]

Hello, 

Is it possible that the crane did that when removing the board?

it would explain your diver sayings, your race performance and the crack angle.

Elliot

 

[Sail4beer]

BN, I’ve re-skinned more than one rudder where the outer skin has delaminated mid race due to water pressure across the blade. A small point of damage to the board may have loaded it up with water. When at hull speed, the water in your board takes a huge pressure load and a wet board will work to pull the entire sheet of ‘glass off of the side with negative pressure to equalize the pressure difference.

 

[Bitter Gnat]

The keel was all the way up when we retrieved the boat on a ramp. The crane was used to lift the board out of the boat while the boat was on the trailer. So, no, the crane did not do this.

Also, as stated above, we dove the boat while we were rafted up on the lake with friends and discovered the damage then. So...

Here's a little tidbit that helps with what Sail4beer says above. I crawled under the boat today and inspected the hull where the board exits. It is clean and shows no scratches or gouges that would more than likely be there if the repeated lifting and dropping of the board was the reason for the peeling off of the skin. In fact the bottom paint looks perfect all around the board groove.

 

[Grrr...]

The keel was all the way up when we retrieved the boat on a ramp. The crane was used to lift the board out of the boat while the boat was on the trailer. So, no, the crane did not do this.

Also, as stated above, we dove the boat while we were rafted up on the lake with friends and discovered the damage then. So...

Here's a little tidbit that helps with what Sail4beer says above. I crawled under the boat today and inspected the hull where the board exits. It is clean and shows no scratches or gouges that would more than likely be there if the repeated lifting and dropping of the board was the reason for the peeling off of the skin. In fact the bottom paint looks perfect all around the board groove.

 How's the top look, especially where the tang goes through? 

 

[Pollination]

In the water for a Year ? No Wonder...

 

[Looper]

Keep Bernie off the rail.

 

[Steam Flyer]

:lol:    :lol:    B)

There's your answer, wrap one of Bernie's mittens around the board.

FB- Doug