S2 7.9 - Exploding Daggerboard!

[Dex Sawash]

Will you guys fill me in on why this boat wouldn't make a great little Keys, Bahamas, FL west coast, Pamlico Sound cruiser?  Especially with an intact dagger board!

I had one in Pamlico and found it fairly unpleasant in square waves of the Neuse. Got pitched over the lifelines twice doing headsail changes. I had the fixed keel version which is probably lighter in the ends and livelier than the normal one. 

 

[Gouvernail]

Stand down right now, Fred. We are weighing our options. Got a few feelers out for old boats that I can steal a board from. (Got any leads on that?)

The board is sitting down at Robert Cummings shop. He wants the work if we decide to reconstruct it. 

Will keep you in the loop.

Cheers!

Robert does fine work!! 
I kept the board  boat from the boat we parted out for two  years before we gave up.

the repair isn’t that absurdly hard or expensive. Even if you found one in Minnesota or Ohio, odds are good Robert can fix yours for less money 

 

[sailman]

Do those boards have a pin/lock in the down position?  One on the Bay up here did fairly well with a 100% jib setup and raising the board off the wind.

 

[DougH]

Do those boards have a pin/lock in the down position?

No.

One on the Bay up here did fairly well with a 100% jib setup and raising the board off the wind.

One on the Bay up here did fairly well with a 100% jib setup and raising the board off the wind.

Yep. Same benefits as in a dinghy when off the wind: Less keel drag and better helm balance(which results in less rudder drag).

 

[Steam Flyer]

Will you guys fill me in on why this boat wouldn't make a great little Keys, Bahamas, FL west coast, Pamlico Sound cruiser?  Especially with an intact dagger board!

I had one in Pamlico and found it fairly unpleasant in square waves of the Neuse. Got pitched over the lifelines twice doing headsail changes. I had the fixed keel version which is probably lighter in the ends and livelier than the normal one. 

There was one in Oriental a few years ~ 2010 but that was the standard (lift keel) version. We raced against them a few times in the Santana 23D, usually beat them.

I think the pitching is just from being a relatively light, relatively fast, 26 footer. A Westsail doesn't pitch much. The Santana just drove thru waves, that also had it's unpleasant side.

FB- Doug

 

[LEE73]

I had my board repaired in 2000. Dove on the boat last week, still looks fine.

 

[thalia39cannon]

So, over the last month the wife and I have noticed our boat seemed to be getting slower. Couldn't figure it out. Our bottom cleaner didn't tell us anything. It all came to a head last weekend when we finished a 22 mile race an hour and 15 minutes behind the first place boat. That winning boat was an S2 7.9 that walked away from us at the start. We dove the boat yesterday thinking it was just really dirty and discovered this.....

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Any S2 7.9 owners/sailors out there in SA Land experienced this sort of catastrophic delamination of their daggerboards?  Just by the way the glass cracked off in mostly straight lines makes me think this was a failed repair? Artex Productions Miami Video Production Company

I have a guy (Gouvernail, that's you!) who says he can rebuild it. But, wondering if searching for a used board somewhere be a more solid option?

Still kinda stunned at what we are looking at here.
 

wow how much they are gonna fix or replace that one

 

[jesposito]

I say change the shape of the daggerboard and lighten it up and don't tell anyone.

 

[Grande Mastere Dreade]

wow how much they are gonna fix or replace that one

the real question is ,  with Robert fixing it,  what year will it be finished?