Rushman
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I was only going by various videos online, the “missing” one was hiding under your armpit.
SailGP Season 3 (2022/2023)
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madboutcats
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It wasn’t a normal storm, 60,000 homes without power today
he b gb
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It happens multiple times a year, every fucking year.
I call that normal. Everyone has a weather radar on their phone, except the FailGP people.
Rushman
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correction…
The Canadian boat was already on land as the Tech team were struggling with the Aus wing
Except the radars measure rainfall not wind.
From here http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/radar/about/radar_site_info.shtml
"The radar images on the Bureau's website display rainfall echoes from clouds located between 2500m and 3500m above ground. At this height, the optimal radar coverage extends to 200km from each radar. The coverage may also be impacted by interference as described in the radar site information above."
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Nice, but have you actually been outside before a storm like this? Just how much work would you be planning to do with this coming? The gusts hit you before the radar indicated front, not uncommon for +50 knots. When it lifts tiles off roofs, what could it do to an F50 wing?
Did you delete your previous post then then repost? I didn't see anything about tiles being lifted off roofs earlier. Or F50 wings.
I am gratified that after not posting much in this thread this season except see #381 where I admit I was wrong, my moans from years gone by are still earworms for you. 🤭
smackdaddy
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Definitely sporty…
smackdaddy
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Ah, mystery solved…
I was wondering what this box was swinging around like a mace ball. Water tank for added down-weight during the hoist. Makes sense. Some lucky people around that paddock.
I was wondering what this box was swinging around like a mace ball. Water tank for added down-weight during the hoist. Makes sense. Some lucky people around that paddock.
smackdaddy
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Really good vid of aftermath. And I love the sentiment from both Jimmy and Tom about the nature of SailGP…
smackdaddy
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Finally, I’m seeing some pretty dumb speculation about how and where Shrek fell. He didn't go through the freakin’ tramp netting, people. He went through that forward fairing as he was crossing on the small platform just in front of the mast you can see here..
…and he did so because right at that moment, Ben had to turn to starboard to avoid CAN.
No one did anything “wrong”. It was just an accident. And all the safety protocols worked perfectly.
Simple.
…and he did so because right at that moment, Ben had to turn to starboard to avoid CAN.
No one did anything “wrong”. It was just an accident. And all the safety protocols worked perfectly.
Simple.
dg_sailingfan
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@he b gb
From the Emirates Great Britain Sail GP Team FB Page:
UPDATE | Huge effort from the whole of @SailGP to secure the Tech site and asses the damage from the extreme weather incident
F50 Rita is now safe, sound and back in the shed after some expert efforts by our shore team to secure her overnight on a sheltered external mooring
The weather damage sustained to the wing tents and across multiple boats is under full assessment but thankfully, no one sustained serious injury and SailGP Season 3 is expected to continue as planned.
They secured the Emirates GBR Boat on an external mooring as you were alluding to.
From the Emirates Great Britain Sail GP Team FB Page:
UPDATE | Huge effort from the whole of @SailGP to secure the Tech site and asses the damage from the extreme weather incident
F50 Rita is now safe, sound and back in the shed after some expert efforts by our shore team to secure her overnight on a sheltered external mooring
The weather damage sustained to the wing tents and across multiple boats is under full assessment but thankfully, no one sustained serious injury and SailGP Season 3 is expected to continue as planned.
They secured the Emirates GBR Boat on an external mooring as you were alluding to.
Rainbow Spirit
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I am sure that the Sail GP teams now have a lot of information about what happened last Saturday, and there will be protocols in place for future events about how to handle their wings etc, when storms are about.
That said every man and his dog could see that storm approaching, and dangling a wing off a crane wasn't going to be a good idea... By the way those that say that the weather radar only shows rain are wrong, there is also a doppler wind readout as well, albeit only for wind approaching and leaving the radar sites.
When you open the radar sites (BOM, Australia) if you double click the individual observation sites, the stats for that site will appear at half hour intervals, and when there is major wind gusts happening there will appear at the times they happened, Sydney Airport had a maximum gust of 50kts at 6:49pm on that Saturday.
That said every man and his dog could see that storm approaching, and dangling a wing off a crane wasn't going to be a good idea... By the way those that say that the weather radar only shows rain are wrong, there is also a doppler wind readout as well, albeit only for wind approaching and leaving the radar sites.
When you open the radar sites (BOM, Australia) if you double click the individual observation sites, the stats for that site will appear at half hour intervals, and when there is major wind gusts happening there will appear at the times they happened, Sydney Airport had a maximum gust of 50kts at 6:49pm on that Saturday.
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smackdaddy
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Okay, I usually don’t care enough about you monkeys to do the legwork for you…but because of the stupid stuff being said about Shrek’s MOB, I think it’s necessary.
First, if you don’t have the app get it. If you don’t want to get the app, then don’t say anything. Because you will just look stupid.
The first thing you need to understand is how incredibly challenging it is to cross from one hull to the other during racing. Just take some time to watch this process via the onboard cameras in the app on any boat and you’ll see what I mean. The fact that these athletes can continually handle these forces and keep their balance on such a dynamic platform is nothing short of amazing. It’s one of the main factors (the human factor) that makes SailGP so unique and so compelling.
Now, per my above post. Where did Shrek fall? Pic #1 shows how and where the grinders cross…
Next, after GBR has rounded the next to last mark, you can see CAN coming up the course toward them on a screaming cross in pic #2… (Look at the distances here and keep in mind that the cross happens about 2 seconds after this moment. This is serious stuff.)
Shrek starts his own crossing to the starboard hull and gets to that platform in pic #3…
And just at that moment, Ben has to dip to starboard to avoid CAN. Shrek loses his balance and falls through the port fairing film in pic #4…
And finally, some idiots are criticizing Ben and crew for not reacting sooner. First of all they are idiots. So there’s that. But second, pic #5 shows what Ben and crew were “seeing” onboard for the couple of seconds after Shrek went through the fairing…
Bottom line: It was a pretty “standard” racing incident. The safety protocols protected Shrek - even as he went into the water at 83kph!!!! and was almost stripped clean from the force. And GBR reacted perfectly under the circumstances, just as you’d expect from an elite professional team.
Shrek then jumped back on and continued racing.
’Nuff said.
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First, if you don’t have the app get it. If you don’t want to get the app, then don’t say anything. Because you will just look stupid.
The first thing you need to understand is how incredibly challenging it is to cross from one hull to the other during racing. Just take some time to watch this process via the onboard cameras in the app on any boat and you’ll see what I mean. The fact that these athletes can continually handle these forces and keep their balance on such a dynamic platform is nothing short of amazing. It’s one of the main factors (the human factor) that makes SailGP so unique and so compelling.
Now, per my above post. Where did Shrek fall? Pic #1 shows how and where the grinders cross…
Next, after GBR has rounded the next to last mark, you can see CAN coming up the course toward them on a screaming cross in pic #2… (Look at the distances here and keep in mind that the cross happens about 2 seconds after this moment. This is serious stuff.)
Shrek starts his own crossing to the starboard hull and gets to that platform in pic #3…
And just at that moment, Ben has to dip to starboard to avoid CAN. Shrek loses his balance and falls through the port fairing film in pic #4…
And finally, some idiots are criticizing Ben and crew for not reacting sooner. First of all they are idiots. So there’s that. But second, pic #5 shows what Ben and crew were “seeing” onboard for the couple of seconds after Shrek went through the fairing…
Bottom line: It was a pretty “standard” racing incident. The safety protocols protected Shrek - even as he went into the water at 83kph!!!! and was almost stripped clean from the force. And GBR reacted perfectly under the circumstances, just as you’d expect from an elite professional team.
Shrek then jumped back on and continued racing.
’Nuff said.
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dg_sailingfan
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@Rainbow Spirit
From the Sail GP Website:
Make of this what you will but the Sydney Authorities gave them permission to crane out the boats as they had a Weather Window.
From the Sail GP Website:
Should craning have taken place during the forecast?
SailGP works closely with local experts and has extensive in-house knowledge of the forecast. We had a window to crane the boats and, with the advice received, proceeded to do so.Make of this what you will but the Sydney Authorities gave them permission to crane out the boats as they had a Weather Window.
fufkin
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Just flipped on the cable to see a massive Canadian wing blowin in the wind. Oh no!!!! Glad there were no injuries.
A quick question for the cognoscenti. Was there only one crane for 3 wings and if so what’s the average length of time for pulling and stowing one wing? That is, how long was the actual logistics window vs. weather window in hindsight.
Squalls sometimes don’t show up directly on radar, until they do... and everyone can debate that but going forward what will the lessons be for’squall conditions possible/likely...
Finally, what was the reasoning behind the boat that stayed in the water etc. I remember back in the Americas cup in Spain they’d keep the winged cats at anchor until a certain wind speed and if exceeded, move the boat out into the harbour.
FWIW, I’ve watched very little of this series but after watching maybe a half hour, I’ve gotta say, this is light years ahead of any sailing coverage I’ve ever watched on TV. Go Canada!
A quick question for the cognoscenti. Was there only one crane for 3 wings and if so what’s the average length of time for pulling and stowing one wing? That is, how long was the actual logistics window vs. weather window in hindsight.
Squalls sometimes don’t show up directly on radar, until they do... and everyone can debate that but going forward what will the lessons be for’squall conditions possible/likely...
Finally, what was the reasoning behind the boat that stayed in the water etc. I remember back in the Americas cup in Spain they’d keep the winged cats at anchor until a certain wind speed and if exceeded, move the boat out into the harbour.
FWIW, I’ve watched very little of this series but after watching maybe a half hour, I’ve gotta say, this is light years ahead of any sailing coverage I’ve ever watched on TV. Go Canada!
Latest Weather Observations for Sydney Harbour
| 18/07:00pm | 26.2 | - | - | - | - | SW | 61 | 83 | 33 | 45 | - | - | - |
| 18/06:56pm | 26.5 | - | - | - | - | SSW | 61 | 83 | 33 | 45 |
Nowhere near hurricane force as claimed, but then again perhaps highest gusts did not occur at the weather stations?
MRS OCTOPUS
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Yer but Nah.
Doppler radar adds the capability to discern air motions within a storm.
It just so happens that there is a Doppler radar located In Terry Hills with real time data available from BOM.
This doesn’t reflect well on the clowns organising that shit show.
Time to get Worksafe involved. Heads should roll.
Edit… Whoops Rainbow S is all over it.
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