Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

lat 38 might be interested, but probably not for the reasons he is thinking. the real suprise of that message is that he still is going to try and make San Francisco..
Everyone seems to forget who they are and who Rimas is. You have to get down on his level.

It's easy to say "if I were him I would do this". Or "why doesn't he do that".

He has no idea of why, he just does. He turns on his Garmin Nuvi automobile purposed GPS and it points him to San Francisco. That's where he wants to go. He has no idea that he might not get there or why.

A person gets tired at night so might as well go to sleep. Pull over and get some rest. Continue on the voyage in the morning. Doesn't everyone do this? He most likely has no idea that that he is not in the same place in the morning as when he stopped sailing the night before.

He probably has no clew to how long a TransPac-Hi/mainland should take. probably doesn't care. It is easy for us to draw the line at 10 days westbound and 14 days eastbound. That would be like teleportation to Rimas.
This is funny, but more importantly its very astute and true. The guy did what he wanted to and you cant take it away from him. At this point do to his success and luck, he's probably not open to 'learning' anything from others as he most likely thinks he is some sort of sailing savant and a 'natural'. I'm sure he would think that he has nothing left to learn as he already bought a 500 dollar boat and did it already.

It really reminds me of HR when he said he looked at thousands of boat designs, blah, blah, blah...

 

psychosailing

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He is the demonstration sailing is not rocket-science, and he may make it to SF even doing everything wrong (I hope he'll be safe). And if he lands somewhere else, well he made it!

San Francisco= book

Los Angeles = movie

Mexico = margaritas

 

Pertinacious Tom

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Everyone seems to forget who they are and who Rimas is. You have to get down on his level.

It's easy to say "if I were him I would do this". Or "why doesn't he do that".

He has no idea of why, he just does. He turns on his Garmin Nuvi automobile purposed GPS and it points him to San Francisco. That's where he wants to go. He has no idea that he might not get there or why.

A person gets tired at night so might as well go to sleep. Pull over and get some rest. Continue on the voyage in the morning. Doesn't everyone do this? He most likely has no idea that that he is not in the same place in the morning as when he stopped sailing the night before.

He probably has no clew to how long a TransPac-Hi/mainland should take. probably doesn't care. It is easy for us to draw the line at 10 days westbound and 14 days eastbound. That would be like teleportation to Rimas.
I can relate, because my knowledge is maybe 2 steps up from his.

When/if he finally arrives, it would be great if some people met him, showed him his track, and explained all of this to him.

The question that burns in my head is- Does he want to learn? Is he open to input from other sailors, or does he think he knows everything he needs to know?

The guy has made it to Hawaii and back (Ok, almost). You'd think a month or two of crewing in Wednesday night races, and spending some nights at the pub with people who've raced to Hawaii, would boost his learning curve immensely.
Two really big steps, from the perspective of someone who watched you take them.

There's a spectrum. At one end, people like my friend who would happily piddle about on his boat, read books, talk boats, or do most anything else boating-related EXCEPT actually cast off lines and go out. His wife was the only reason their boat ever left the dock.

At the other end is Rimas.

I disagree with Bligh about Rimas thinking he's a sailing "natural." I think he did not even put that much thought into it. He has no inclination to learn but a very strong inclination to cast off lines.

It takes all kinds and it does make him interesting.

 

Rain Man

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Sorry, did I miss something? Have you folks actually met Rimas? There is a fair bit of character assassination going on here, not that that is particularly unusual on SA, for someone you haven't met and whose entire pronouncements on sailing amount to cryptic status messages typed on an Inreach device.. How did you folks conclude that Rimas is not open to learning about sailing? He's over 70, may or may not be computer literate, and managed to get himself to Hawaii on a shoestring budget. I wouldn't do what he did, but at least he did it.

If I'm wrong and you have met him and have reason to believe he's not interested in learning how to sail better, please indicate why you think so....

I can only imagine what I'd be typing on that device after 55 days at sea on an SJ 24....something like "get me the f____ out of here". :wacko:

 
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couchsurfer

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Sorry, did I miss something? Have you folks actually met Rimas? There is a fair bit of character assassination going on here, not that that is particularly unusual on SA, for someone you haven't met and whose entire pronouncements on sailing amount to cryptic status messages typed on an Inreach device.. How did you folks conclude that Rimas is not open to learning about sailing? He's over 70, may or may not be computer literate, and managed to get himself to Hawaii on a shoestring budget. I wouldn't do what he did, but at least he did it.

If I'm wrong and you have met him and have reason to believe he's not interested in learning how to sail better, please indicate why you think so....

I can only imagine what I'd be typing on that device after 55 days at sea on an SJ 24....something like "get me the f____ out of here". :wacko:
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...........something about his mention of reporters' and building delusions of grandeur can change attitudes of innocence to 'assassination' as you say :mellow:

 
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Ajax

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Hang on, Dash. I ASKED (hypothetically) if he was open to learning, I didn't say he wasn't interested.

Interesting thing about his track- He's made a beeline NE since Tuesday, with no ground lost to the South. I wouldn't be surprised if he finally figured out that he can't just "pull over" for the night, and is either actively sailing at night, or at least tying off the tiller and letting the boat sail itself while he sleeps. It looks like he can make it to San Fran, if he keeps at it.

Dash, since you seem to have more information about Rimas than the rest of us, is he still navigating with a car GPS or did someone donate an old Garmin or something?

Oh- Now he's asking for charts covering from Cape Horn to South Africa!

 

Rain Man

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Sorry, did I miss something? Have you folks actually met Rimas? There is a fair bit of character assassination going on here, not that that is particularly unusual on SA, for someone you haven't met and whose entire pronouncements on sailing amount to cryptic status messages typed on an Inreach device.. How did you folks conclude that Rimas is not open to learning about sailing? He's over 70, may or may not be computer literate, and managed to get himself to Hawaii on a shoestring budget. I wouldn't do what he did, but at least he did it.

If I'm wrong and you have met him and have reason to believe he's not interested in learning how to sail better, please indicate why you think so....

I can only imagine what I'd be typing on that device after 55 days at sea on an SJ 24....something like "get me the f____ out of here". :wacko:
.

...........something about his mention of reporters' and building delusions of grandeur can change attitudes of innocence to 'assassination' as you say :mellow:
No argument there, he's guilty of that. Funny how that one mistake completely changed our perception of the guy - he should have just quietly returned and waited to see if anyone noticed - if not, move on, nothing else to be done. That said, so far he's not yet been proven guilty of being unwilling to learn.

 
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Clove Hitch

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Hang on, Dash. I ASKED (hypothetically) if he was open to learning, I didn't say he wasn't interested.

Interesting thing about his track- He's made a beeline NE since Tuesday, with no ground lost to the South. I wouldn't be surprised if he finally figured out that he can't just "pull over" for the night, and is either actively sailing at night, or at least tying off the tiller and letting the boat sail itself while he sleeps. It looks like he can make it to San Fran, if he keeps at it.

Dash, since you seem to have more information about Rimas than the rest of us, is he still navigating with a car GPS or did someone donate an old Garmin or something?

Oh- Now he's asking for charts covering from Cape Horn to South Africa!
I'll tell you one thing. After that many days of sailing, soaked through because of no rain gear, the inside of his boat probably smells like ham. Am I right?

 
Pressed ham:

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CowboyKell

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I haven't changed my perception about Rimas after his "reporter" request or his book hints. After all, how long has he been out there? The mind can wander far and wide with that much alone time.

I don't think there is anything wrong with what he has done or is doing. Different strokes for dif.....As I mentioned, I won't make the crossing in anything that will take longer than about 10 days. Fast is fun. But at the same time I will definitely buy Rimas drinks all night to hear the stories of his adventure. And during that story session I would never mention that there is a better way to do it.

 
Rimas may be the nicest guy in the world and be a man of great character for all I know. We also know he;

1) is woefully unprepared for this voyage in regards to safety and experience

2) has used handouts to fund his trip

3) has already used valuable coast guard resources to locate his position because of a 'I am in danger' call.

4) used a 'tom tom' to get to Hawaii

etc etc.

I dont think it's character assassination to point out these things.

I also don't think it's character assassination to hypothesize he isn't open to learning. You really think Rimas left Seattle without someone saying, "Hey the pacific ocean is a dangerous place, maybe you need more preparation". He has already admitted that guys told him not to go east from Hawaii, but he did it anyways. So yeah , I don't think he's open to learning from other people because he CLEARLY has already ignored sound advice.

 
Regarding his goal of rounding the horn from his facebook page;

" Ive crossed the horn many times and crossed the drake many as well with my job. its no place for this boat, and its no place to even really attempt a rescue as it puts others lives in danger as well. Its hard not to watch a trainwreck. I tried to tell him this when i met him in hawaii where he was pretty much begging for help in a polite fashion."

Another comment form someone who knows him;

"I've had talks with him. He brags about where he stays, showed me how much was in his wallet that he begged from other people. I do admire him for following his dreams, but I think probably deep down inside he's a con artist."

 
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Rain Man

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Hang on, Dash. I ASKED (hypothetically) if he was open to learning, I didn't say he wasn't interested.

Interesting thing about his track- He's made a beeline NE since Tuesday, with no ground lost to the South. I wouldn't be surprised if he finally figured out that he can't just "pull over" for the night, and is either actively sailing at night, or at least tying off the tiller and letting the boat sail itself while he sleeps. It looks like he can make it to San Fran, if he keeps at it.

Dash, since you seem to have more information about Rimas than the rest of us, is he still navigating with a car GPS or did someone donate an old Garmin or something?

Oh- Now he's asking for charts covering from Cape Horn to South Africa!
It was Bligh's post that bugged me. This one: "I guess I don't get the impression that he would be open to 'learning' anything as he probably wouldn't be interested in the information. " - not yours.

I have assumed that he has an InReach device, which displays GPS lat/long - it might also provide course and distance to go. It sounds like he has charts on board, and some idea how to use them, so he can at least plot a course if the InReach won't give him one directly.

I don't know anything more than anyone else who has been following this story on SA, though there is a lot that can be figured out by reading between the lines.

He has been extremely lucky with the wind direction for the last few days. The wind gods are smiling on him.

I suspect his status as a charity case is in serious jeopardy at this point.

dash

 

couchsurfer

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Sorry, did I miss something? Have you folks actually met Rimas? There is a fair bit of character assassination going on here, not that that is particularly unusual on SA, for someone you haven't met and whose entire pronouncements on sailing amount to cryptic status messages typed on an Inreach device.. How did you folks conclude that Rimas is not open to learning about sailing? He's over 70, may or may not be computer literate, and managed to get himself to Hawaii on a shoestring budget. I wouldn't do what he did, but at least he did it.

If I'm wrong and you have met him and have reason to believe he's not interested in learning how to sail better, please indicate why you think so....

I can only imagine what I'd be typing on that device after 55 days at sea on an SJ 24....something like "get me the f____ out of here". :wacko:
.

...........something about his mention of reporters' and building delusions of grandeur can change attitudes of innocence to 'assassination' as you say :mellow:
No argument there, he's guilty of that. Funny how that one mistake completely changed our perception of the guy - he should have just quietly returned and waited to see if anyone noticed - if not, move on, nothing else to be done. That said, so far he's not yet been proven guilty of being unwilling to learn.
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...hope upon hope all his dreams come true...a -dock- full of reporters and aging hippie-chicks greet his arrival,,maybe have the fire-boat shooting-off,,that's be th'touch

,,,,charts are awaiting for the next -leg- of his journey,,,,,,

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Regarding his goal of rounding the horn from his facebook page;

" Ive crossed the horn many times and crossed the drake many as well with my job. its no place for this boat,
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...that's where crowd-funding and VO#8 enter the picture.

...or maybe team up with the pirate boat!? :)

 
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psychosailing

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Learning is a capacity that generally decreases with aging. this is a 70 yrs old guy, the best he can do is to stay alive, and he manage to do it against many odds.

This is a guy that is really fascinated by learning, and his story it's a demonstration of it. If he is capable of learning it's another point, but this doens't bother me much, he is 70 he can do what the hell he want even be be an ocena corssing psychotic.

here some learning lines from his facebook:

BETWEEN MEXICO AND HAWAII I SEE NO SHIPS,NO PLANES, NO WHALES. IT WAS MOST LONELINESS. BECAUSE I SEE NOTHING OUT THERE. JUST LONELY BEAUTY OF SEA. SOMETIMES I LOOK AT STARS FOR LONG TIME AT NIGHT. CLOUDS ALWAYS CHANGING AND COLORS AS WEATHER MOVES IN FROM THE NORTH.

I ALWAYS SCARED MAST COME DOWN AND NOBODY TO HELP AS I WAS SO FAR FROM PEOPLE AND LAND. WATER WAS LOW I FIND SCARY BUT THEN RAIN COMES AND I FILL BARRELS.

BUT SOMETIMES IT WAS PEACEFUL. I SAW ALL THINGS WEATHER AND EMOTION IN 84 DAYS ON THE SEA. I LEARN FROM SEA TO BE BETTER SAILOR.

VERY GREAT ADVENTURE IT WAS. SO MANY EXPERIENCE. I LOVE SEA AND SAILING. I ALREADY MISS THE SEA AND MUST CONTINUE. I BELONG TO THE SEA.

https://www.facebook.com/rimas.meleshyus/posts/226963714129202

 
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