Saphire 27
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ROADKILL666
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Not in Florida but it looks like a cool little boat
Steam Flyer
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Not in person, but I have checked in with them on the wwweb a bunch...... this seems like a really cool little boat. Not a super-hot hot rod but with some pep. Very good looking boat, from what I've seen. Sometimes boats and people look much better on camera than in person, or much worse. But video generally shows a range of angles and captures more of reality.
Last time I corresponded with Saphire, they were "working on plans" to bring them to the US. I take that to mean they're looking for somebody to sink the money into buying two or three plus shipping, and might have some prospects or might not
FB- Doug
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we got one here on the Hudson River...it's the Cruise model...pin head main not the square top of the race model
Steam Flyer
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Cool! We go up there often enough that I might get a chance to see it.... do you know what club? Have you seen it sailing enough to have an idea how good/not-so-good it is?
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jerseyguy
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Here is a comparison review from 2014.
https://www.boats.com/reviews/saphire-27-vs-seascape-27-sailboats-duel-with-loaded-guns/
J88 Alchemy
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A few months ago, the Saphire website said the molds were for sale which was a concern. But there is no mention of that now and the boat is still available for sale on the webpage. I'm really interested in this boat. If anyone else is interested too, please contact me. Perhaps we could work with Saphire and get a good deal on shipping and a fleet discount. If the owner of the boat on the Hudson is on SA, perhaps let us know how the boat is?
carlofifth
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Did you find out anything about what they are doing (or what they did) with the moulds? Is the boat really still available for sale? I am also interested in the boat... unfortunately I live in Italy, not in the USA or in Canada...
SAPHIRE AG in Liquidation
Breitenstasse 1
6403 Küssnacht am Rigi
Switzerland
info[at]saphire.swiss
I would say the molds will maybe turn up, in half to a year and if not snapped up after liquidation fire sale , will be crushed like so many before.....all that work, for a brief time in the world.....
Breitenstasse 1
6403 Küssnacht am Rigi
Switzerland
info[at]saphire.swiss
I would say the molds will maybe turn up, in half to a year and if not snapped up after liquidation fire sale , will be crushed like so many before.....all that work, for a brief time in the world.....
carlofifth
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It is a destiny common to many similar boats: Saphire 27, Reacher 780, Elan 210, Skippi 750, Rossoragno RR28... Bente 24 will perhaps survive...
Almost impossible today to find an 8m sailboat with lifting keel, twin outboard rudders, weight below 1500kg, 40-50 m2 sail area, 4 berths, small water tanks, retractable engine...
carlofifth
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Did you ever try to go below deck of the Saffier 27?...
I tried at Boot 2020, in Düsseldorf. I hit my head in 7 different edges, and my knees in 4, before managing to get out from there!...
Wonderful boat, but for a contortionist. And she has a fixed keel...
glass
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Those are photos of SAFFIER 27 not of SAPHIRE 27; they are totally different boatswell then, if you can't get an american Saphire27, you might opt for the european one, it's a real gem, but as gems go ... at a price
'Bacco
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Super cool boat but that "dodger" looks likes it came off a 1994 SeaRay
Albatros
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that Sir, now that is a very acute observation, wink, grin, congrats.
as for room down below ... that's the curse of just about any daysailor, another euro-crap option in that respect could be the Day.m8 (spelled daymate), not crawling but still no standing room, and as for the dodger, de gustibus etceterra
Floating Duck
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I guess that's a matter of perspective isn't it...
That's exactly what I hate about other options, tons of standing headroom, slow and boring as hell... And that headroom is damn expensive to boot.
How much room does a day sailor need anyway? You are there for the day only, as per it's title...
No wonder cars are also getting huge and uninspiring.
carlofifth
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Exactly.
What you need for a daysailer is a fast hull with a powerful sail plan (you go out on the boat to have fun, not for an unhurried trip, and in the weekend you could enjoy competing in some club race close to your mooring place), a retractable keel with bomb (to land in some little beach but also to have an efficient appendage), 3-4 berths (to sleep a couple of nights onboard, during summer), a wide cockpit to have lunch onboard (and to organize a "sunbed" for your wife when there is no wind and you use the boat as a "gozzo boat"...), little tanks to have (and to waste) some water, a chemical toilet, a campingaz stove, an ice-box and a clever mechanism to use an outboard engine (and to retract it in a well when you don't need it: I personally hate the sailboats with the outboard engine hanging on the stern...). The boat should be trailerable, with the possibility to launch and pick it up on a ramp. No mahogany interiors, no pump toilet, no doors, no brass lamps inside, no portrait of Horatio Nelson on the wall...
