Save the USPS !!

[mikewof]

Mike, you're wrong.

Feel free to elaborate.

Unless it's about your sciatica.

 

[mikewof]

You folks are not nearly skeptical or cynical enough. 

You don't seem to grasp that the US Reich has the entire "administrative state" lined up for privatization 

Their stated goal is to abolish and grab all of it. 

National Weather Service, National Parks, Vets Admin, public schools, NASA, OSHA, National Forrests & Federal Lands 

Not only the USPS - that is only the beginning 

Somalia, inspired by your shining example, here we come

Uh, we were discussing exact thing long before you came along with this thread.

The USPS is a particularly ripe tomato because there is a buyer, there is the intent, and there is the existing quasi status.

I've no doubt that there are other efforts of privatization, but this effort is here now.

Do you know the single thing you can do with your money to help avoid this?

 

[AJ Oliver]

But the reason the USPS is now ripe for privatization is because it does not work.

Your "Reich" shit is getting really old. You're undermining your whole position with that bullshit.

You seem to be quite uninformed about the USPS - the main reason why it is in trouble is deliberate and purposeful sabotage by the Reich; being required to pre-fund health care benefits 75 years out - for millions of future employees who have not even been born yet. (rolled back in February, but the damage was done by then) 

And I rather like that my use of the word "Reich" and its derivations drives you bonkers. I want it to. 

What other term would you suggest for someone who cares more about kinda snarky labels than they do about vote suppression ? (i.e., you) 

And how would you compare my civility with that of the Drumph ? (see below) 

You could always ignore me - please? 

 In a disturbing new series of tweets, President Trump on Friday urged Americans to “liberate” three U.S. states that are run by Democratic governors amid protests over coronavirus shutdowns. The three tweets took aim at Minnesota, Michigan, and Virginia. “LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!”

 

[AJ Oliver]

"They're coming after a right of the people" - very true 

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/17/right-people-leader-postal-workers-union-demands-usps-funding-next-stimulus-bill

 

[Blue Crab]

I looked up troll in dictionary and it said: "And I rather like that my use of the word "Reich" and its derivations drives you bonkers. I want it to. "

AJ, you're a pompous old fool. I intend to downvote you each time you use the term. All your other dumb opinions are ok -- free country and all -- but the Reich thing labels you as an Antifa, and exactly as militant and ignorant as the Reichsters. Far worse considering your supposed lofty (and widely published) expertise. And note, if you show a pic of the guys in German uniforms, call them what you will. But the term doesn't apply to anyone here. You've already been unable to back that up. 

Up yer game antifa mofo. 

 

[jerseyguy]

Trump’s tweets about “liberating” MI, MN, and VA.

sounds perilously close to sedition to me

 

[BeSafe]

The post office is a good and useful service.  It's fine. Supported the petition.

 

[d'ranger]

The post office is a good and useful service.  It's fine. Supported the petition.

Agreed and supported. 

And another vote for somebody to drop the Reich crap. I mean give it a rest already.

 

[AJ Oliver]

And another vote for somebody to drop the Reich crap. I mean give it a rest already.

If you and Crab can suggest an alternative label to use - one that is equally or even more disrespectful,  

I'll be glad to consider it. 

And by the way, I have previously explained at length why the US Right can appropriately be referred to as the "Reich" 

I used the commonly understood philosophical pillars of fascism - from the Fuhrerprinzip, to the racist, militaristic, anti-intellectual, authoritarian, irrationalistic ideas behind fascism 

It totally fits. 

And thanks for your support of our beloved USPS - and remind them to bring back postal banking while they are about it. 

 

[d'ranger]

It just doesn't help - it's like not Republicans are Nazis but all Nazis are Republicans.  Using the big brush doesn't help.  When the right paints everyone else as socialist or commies it's kind of the same thing. 

I just signed another petition by a different group to save USPS as well.

 

[AJ Oliver]

 -- but the Reich thing labels you as an Antifa, and exactly as militant and ignorant as the Reichsters.

Up yer game antifa mofo. 

Ooooohhh - the dreaded "down vote". Whatever shall I do? 

And I am rather fond of Antifa - and admire the way they stand up to the modern US Reich. 

At Charlottesville, a number of religious folks, not radicals by any means, credited Antifa with saving their lives from an approaching Nazi mob. 

I strongly suspect that at least some of the alleged incidents of Antifa mis-behavior were false flag ops by FAUX News and the Reich. 

In general, if you think that Antifa's actions are in any way whatsoever comparable to those of the Reich, you are really badly misinformed. 

 

[AJ Oliver]

It just doesn't help - it's like not Republicans are Nazis but all Nazis are Republicans.  Using the big brush doesn't help.  When the right paints everyone else as socialist or commies it's kind of the same thing. 

Your comment is a bit unclear, but I think I agree. 

I don't think I ever wrote that all Republicans are of the Reich. Many of them are not. 

But the one's who support and enable the Drumph ?  Yep 

 

[d'ranger]

Your comment is a bit unclear, but I think I agree. 

I don't think I ever wrote that all Republicans are of the Reich. Many of them are not. 

But the one's who support and enable the Drumph ?  Yep 

Most of those I know who support Trump are not well educated and watch FOX or listen to the RW nutjobs on AM radio and/or all their friends do. Many grew up voting R and would vote for Bozo the Con if he were the R guy (was a joke before Trump won, now not so funny).  They are mostly older and afraid of change - changing demographics and seeing the American Dream go down the toilet and believing those who tell them it's all the fault of the liberals. Hardly makes them the Reich in my opinion.  I won't bring it up again.

 

[AJ Oliver]

Most of those I know who support Trump are not well educated and watch FOX or listen to the RW nutjobs on AM radio and/or all their friends do. Many grew up voting R and would vote for Bozo the Con if he were the R guy (was a joke before Trump won, now not so funny).  They are mostly older and afraid of change - changing demographics and seeing the American Dream go down the toilet and believing those who tell them it's all the fault of the liberals. Hardly makes them the Reich in my opinion.  I won't bring it up again.

Good point, but if they are like political scientists, most of them would cheerfully stuff screaming humans into giant furnaces . . 

if it meant they could score a grant or consultancy - (slight exaggeration alert) 

No, they are not that bad. I too know many of them, some in my family. 

Their minds have been poisoned by the lies of the Reich-Wing media. 

 

[Not for nothing]

"Junk mail" is some of the most profitable mail that runs through the USPS. It comes in often presorted, pre-classed and with defined zones.

If Junk mail is the big money maker ,why aren't they showing a profit? that's about 90% of what I get!

On Long Island , I would have a POB ( as they wouldn't delievered when it snowed?) but any how , at the POB building , there was a table to go thru your mail, next to the talbe was a huge Garbage can , at the end of the day it was full of junk mail, What a waste of paper  and wood to make that paper, SAVE A TREE!

Interesting enough I only get 2 bills a month that I pay with a stamp, most is done on line 

Another fun fact all postal workers I know love trrump and he's the one that won't give them $$$$$ , are they dump or what?

 

[AJ Oliver]

 , are they dump or what?

They are indeed dump. 

 

[Not for nothing]

They are indeed dump. 

fucking spell check ,Dumb /Dump same difference

my first laugh of the day thanks

 

[mikewof]

If Junk mail is the big money maker ,why aren't they showing a profit? that's about 90% of what I get!

On Long Island , I would have a POB ( as they wouldn't delievered when it snowed?) but any how , at the POB building , there was a table to go thru your mail, next to the talbe was a huge Garbage can , at the end of the day it was full of junk mail, What a waste of paper  and wood to make that paper, SAVE A TREE!

Interesting enough I only get 2 bills a month that I pay with a stamp, most is done on line 

Another fun fact all postal workers I know love trrump and he's the one that won't give them $$$$$ , are they dump or what?

Singing to the choir Not for Nothing, I have become really good at recognizing junk mail by the typefaces on the outside of the envelope. I can usually tell which letters don't need to be opened. I suspect I threw away an actual check for a couple hundred bones a few years ago, but I've saved at least that much in not opening all my junk.

But there is always that one piece of junk mail that just makes my day. Have you ever received one of those? Like a little catalog of stainless steel fittings. I don't know where they got my name, but that made some excellent reading for a few weeks. Or the Uline catalog will do in the pinch. But back int he day, back when McMaster-Carr used to mail you an actual catalog, that was just Day of the King Sized Shits when the new McMaster Carr catalog came. You could disappear into the shitter with that behemoth, and when you emerged, so much time had passed that the company around your bathroom had fallen to the ground, apes and robots had enslaved all humans and even the inevitable slow cooker filled with deer chili had gone cold.

You show me any machine shop anywhere West of the Mississippi before the 1995, and somewhere, every time, there was a slow cooker filled with deer chili.

 

[mikewof]

The universal home delivery needs to be revisited . I can imagine post office box centers where you drive to to pick your mail. The infirm could request home delivery 

That's what Amazon would do away with if they take over. And I think that's the thing that's perhaps needed most.

When you live out in the sticks, a few hundred acres of nearly useless yucca land between you and your nearest neighbor, you'll wait by that mailbox for the delivery. It's the high point of your day You might have just sold a steer for enough to pay off the remaining note of your combine, but when that post delivery car comes by (it's often a private car with a USPS stencil when you're really out in the backcountry) when that post delivery car comes through, you look forward to whatever they deliver.

If we went to two times a week for hom delivery that would solve most of the costs, and it could allow a really good pathway to keep the full0-timers full time. They would sort on Monday, deliver on Tuesday, sort on Wednesday, deliver on Thursday, and then fill in the rest of their 40 hours with general pickup delivery, where the USPS can charge extra on nondelivery day.

I do agree with you that the elderly and infirm should get a good deal, but why not just allow rural deliveries to bundle up with other deliveries? They're already often contract and freelance anyway for rural delivery, by letting them go more flexible with the delivery schedule they could potentially keep a valuable service without needing to offload that cost to the USPS. Maybe for those, they don't get the pre-funded pensions, but there is no reason why they couldn't get a group-rate pension fund.

 

[mikewof]

I looked up troll in dictionary and it said: "And I rather like that my use of the word "Reich" and its derivations drives you bonkers. I want it to. "

AJ, you're a pompous old fool. I intend to downvote you each time you use the term. All your other dumb opinions are ok -- free country and all -- but the Reich thing labels you as an Antifa, and exactly as militant and ignorant as the Reichsters. Far worse considering your supposed lofty (and widely published) expertise. And note, if you show a pic of the guys in German uniforms, call them what you will. But the term doesn't apply to anyone here. You've already been unable to back that up. 

Up yer game antifa mofo. 

He's an okay guy, I like some of his lefty politics, but I agree that "Reich" should refer to a specific historical nightmare, and should not be watered down with the liberal application on anyone who is deemed sufficiently unlike us.

Real Americans fought and died to keep the real Reich from coming here. That means something unarguable and specific. The reality of one of the single darkest points in human history should not be turned into something with little more meaning than the meme of a kitten with a really cute Hitler mustache.