Selling a boat - reverse auction?

Ishmael

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Is it insured for more than it is worth? Is there a nice granite ledge close to shore nearby? Alcohol stove acting up? There are worlds of possibilities.

But I'd personally donate it before I torched it.

 

SemiSalt

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My immediate reaction to looking at the ad was that the difference between $14K and, say, $12K would not matter much to me. I think this tends to confirm the buyer-finding hypothesis. I sort of wonder if anyone on such a tight budget that the $2K difference is important should be buying any expensive proposition like a 35 ft sailboat.

 OTOH, the Dutch auction aspect  does add a tiny touch of drama to the ad which might move a prospective buyer into action.

 

SloopJonB

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It's a bit like those car auctions where the reserve comes off before it is met in an attempt to stir the crowd but it often backfires and the bid still doesn't move.

 

TwoLegged

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I agree. It adds some finality: This boat is going to be sold, don't miss out.
It can add finality.  But if there's a reserve, then there is no guarantee of a sale.

This seller has a reserve.  So I am not so sure that this boat will actually be sold in the auction.

 

Ajax

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Well, he'd better mention it in the ad.

Smile sails in my waters and we sail together sometimes. That boat has some damned funny stories and Smile tells them very well.

Although cosmetically the interior might need some love, the boat is extremely sound in all other aspects. You could sail the boat away right now but I'd be inclined to modernize the interior a bit for any female visitors and find a main at Bacon Sails for it. The boat is totally trustworthy.

 

TwoLegged

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T.L., are you saying that the reserve is not made public in a reverse/Dutch auction? How about on eBay?
I dunno what the general practice is in Dutch Auctions.  But in this case the seller has not disclosed it.

I didn't think Ebay did Dutch Auctions.  However, on its conventional upwards auctions, the value of the reserves is not disclosed -- they just say "reserve not met"

 

Omer

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Can you not gather a few interested buyers first and hold an open reverse auction at a specific date and place where people attend in person.

Thereby you can eliminate the risk of the potential buyer not having yet entered the market. 

 

jack_sparrow

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How do you handle the price change in the situation where someone's interested, looks at it, gets a survey, all of which may take a few weeks?


Good question. Haven’t thought of it. I imagine we could freeze the price at the point someone indicates they want to buy, pending survey, and then continue the auction if the sale doesn’t go through? 
It is a "as is where is deal" as reflected in the selling approach and ultimate price.

 

SemiSalt

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Just by the way, I know of an Ericson 32 that changed hands here in WLIS in the last few weeks. So, there is a market for that sort of boat, at least around here. From dockside, she looks great.

 

jimbojones

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There are more old boats than there are people who want to own old boats and a  low price may have the effect of signaling potential buyers that the boat is a project or that it is being passed over by other buyers for some reason.  I think it is better to ask a higher price and state that you are open to all offers. In the US the used boat market is terrible for sellers. I think a reverse auction tells buyers that a boat is undesirable and that you are desperate to get rid of it.

That said in my boat hunt this summer I noticed that for older mass production boats eBay seems to get higher selling prices than other markets.

 


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