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Kolibri

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Two projects nearly complete. Crack repair and varnish work on the hood is almost done. 8 coats down and ~4 more to go. Standing rigging replacement almost done. 2 more stays to replace on Friday.

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lakeneuch

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We started hoisting the main but the 2:1 halyard kept binding up in the block.
That looks sketchy... Maybe as you say it will work with the headboard, but if it locks up while shaking (when reefing etc.) you are in trouble. The Winchard solution is very nice, but not free.
 

Tylo

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That looks sketchy... Maybe as you say it will work with the headboard, but if it locks up while shaking (when reefing etc.) you are in trouble. The Winchard solution is very nice, but not free.
Ah, funny you mention that!
We still had problems with that block after fitting the headboard so I'm now using a Wichard MXEvo.

There's more friction than I'd ideally like but I'm not sure if it's due to the slides binding up in the mast or if there's an issue with the halyard, or a combination of the two.
All the halyards exit the bottom of the mast unorganized so they may have become tangled during transport/handling, I didn't have enough foresight to strap them down. I'm trying to think of a way to ascertain that they aren't tangled with each other inside the mast. Maybe the only way is to pull them out one by one, try to lean the mast over and run the halyards again with a bicycle chain or something.

I'm also thinking of trying to 3D-print new battcars with wheels. The reason they'd need to be 3D-printed is because my mast profile is really odd; the back is concave so no battcars with wheels that I've found so far have enough distance between the slug-part that goes inside the mast and the wheels to actually fit.

Here are some pictures of how the current battcars are binding up in the sail track when the battens push on them and what the track looks like. I've never seen a mast with a concave aft section like this before. Many things to figure out with a new-to-me boat...

My sister and I went out today though and hit a new-to-us top speed of 15 knots which was great fun, so it's not all headscratching and problemsolving.

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Jud - s/v Sputnik

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Lifeline solar panels mounting stuff almost done (converting wire lifeline section to tubing.). A bit trickier than expected to get it all sorted out, especially when boat is on a mooring and you’re rowing back and forth repeatedly day after day after day after work.

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Jud - s/v Sputnik

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What's moored under the cover off your port side? Looks pretty. I'll be following the solar panel install with interest.
Funny you should ask, being from/in Nova Scotia. Good eye! :)

That’s “Hawk”, one of the famous ‘bird boats’ built in Nova Scotia, designed by the man who designed the famous Bluenose schooner. Built in 1929.

Kept fully covered presumably to keep her paint and varnish alive. I’ve been aboard her once some years ago - a dark wooden cave down below. I love it - some hate that, but it’s a very unique and ship-like feel, so much not a modern plastic boat feel. I definitely toyed with the idea of owning her (I think the owner was open to offers…), but I could never afford or justify the cost and time to keep a boat like that!

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Veeger

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Okay, this is intriguing. Converting lifelines to solid stainless rails. Have had a random thought that I'd like that on my boat. (Wasn't thinking about solar panels though). More and more boats are coming out with solid rails. Where'd you get these?
 

Kris Cringle

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Happy to have my bow into the wind and not be sailing this memorial day.

The weather was very nice for painting a boat bottom. But once the South wind picked up you ran for a jacket.

While it hit the low 80s yesterday on shore, Penobscot Bay is still under 50F.

What is it like out there on the bay? I just told you! :)

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Jud - s/v Sputnik

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Okay, this is intriguing. Converting lifelines to solid stainless rails. Have had a random thought that I'd like that on my boat. (Wasn't thinking about solar panels though). More and more boats are coming out with solid rails. Where'd you get these?
It’s very simple - only to convert a small section (I did from stern rail to first stanchion; definitely not all of them) to tubing to support a (removable) solar panel. I used a few Sea Dog 316 ss 1” rail fittings (to attach to stern rail, and to transition from wire to tube). Everything has a 1/4-20 through bolt added to it —we drilled out the fittings — in addition to the little 1/4-28 set screws they come with. It’s a bit of an experiment to see how we like it, but it does give us 200w of solar, which is great.

If converting to tubing overall, keep in mind it’ll add a fair bit of weight. Frankly, I wouldn’t replace all lifelines with tubing - but if one did, I’d think it should properly fabricated and welded for strength (and looks; through bolts at the joins everywhere wouldn’t look great).

Another two boats - specifically for PV panels.

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Kolibri

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Happy to have my bow into the wind and not be sailing this memorial day.

The weather was very nice for painting a boat bottom. But once the South wind picked up you ran for a jacket.

While it hit the low 80s yesterday on shore, Penobscot Bay is still under 50F.

What is it like out there on the bay? I just told you! :)

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Sunny and 85 F in my neighborhood with trade winds blowing 10 to 15 knots. Occasional gust to 20 knots. Getting some shade while anchored in the bay was definitely a good thing.

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Funny you should ask, being from/in Nova Scotia. Good eye! :)

That’s “Hawk”, one of the famous ‘bird boats’ built in Nova Scotia, designed by the man who designed the famous Bluenose schooner. Built in 1929.

Kept fully covered presumably to keep her paint and varnish alive. I’ve been aboard her once some years ago - a dark wooden cave down below. I love it - some hate that, but it’s a very unique and ship-like feel, so much not a modern plastic boat feel. I definitely toyed with the idea of owning her (I think the owner was open to offers…), but I could never afford or justify the cost and time to keep a boat like that!

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I believe the owner of Race Rocks also had one of these, inherited from his father? Wonder what they’ll do with her now that the yard is sold to that powerboat group, she was down to the frames on one side last year.
 

Jud - s/v Sputnik

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I believe the owner of Race Rocks also had one of these, inherited from his father? Wonder what they’ll do with her now that the yard is sold to that powerboat group, she was down to the frames on one side last year.
Right - now I remember. He did indeed have one of them, sistership to Hawk. I talked to him (Jenni? Pronounced something like “Yenni”, but spelled with a J, being German? Someone will be along shortly to correct me…) last fall when we’d hauled out - told me of his big dreams to haul the boat to his big property on Gambier…and, in the middle of a major through-hull replacement project, tried hard to pry myself away from listening to the mad dreams of an old man :). That boat was thoroughly rotted, deconstructed, etc. Cool history, etc but a truly major endeavour to rebuild something like they without substantial money and effort…
 

SloopJonB

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You guys are talking about Buccaneer - that boat is about 100 years old and has had so much bullshit patchwork done to it that IMO it is finished.

Chris Deiner owned it for decades - maybe since the 50's? He and his then wife lived on it for a time long ago. His son Jonni (pronounced Yonny) inherited it and put a bunch more patchwork into it but I really can't see it ever floating again.
 

Kris Cringle

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It’s very simple - only to convert a small section (I did from stern rail to first stanchion; definitely not all of them) to tubing to support a (removable) solar panel. I used a few Sea Dog 316 ss 1” rail fittings (to attach to stern rail, and to transition from wire to tube). Everything has a 1/4-20 through bolt added to it —we drilled out the fittings — in addition to the little 1/4-28 set screws they come with. It’s a bit of an experiment to see how we like it, but it does give us 200w of solar, which is great.

If converting to tubing overall, keep in mind it’ll add a fair bit of weight. Frankly, I wouldn’t replace all lifelines with tubing - but if one did, I’d think it should properly fabricated and welded for strength (and looks; through bolts at the joins everywhere wouldn’t look great).

Another two boats - specifically for PV panels.

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This solar propulsion project makes me realize the fight on a sailboat for panel area is caused largely by the mast.

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We have a tree in the middle that forces solar panels outboard. Tris and Cats excel at having solar area but still lose efficiency from the 'tree' and all its branches.

Electric Philosophy is a cool idea and I can't have enough solar panels on this planet, but we have a more sustainable carbon-free mood of propulsion; it's called a sailboat.

When are there too many solar panels on a sailboat? For me, that would be when their 'operation' cause me to sail less. Plus, with 2 trees, I max at about 50 watts.
 

Jim in Halifax

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Electric Philosophy is a cool idea and I can't have enough solar panels on this planet, but we have a more sustainable carbon-free mood mode of propulsion; it's called a sailboat.

When are there too many solar panels on a sailboat? For me, that would be when their 'operation' cause me to sail less. Plus, with 2 trees, I max at about 50 watts.
Sometimes the 'minimalism' of sailing is overlooked in our obsession with technology.
(I corrected the typo but maybe sailing is more about mood than mode...)
 

Jud - s/v Sputnik

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You guys are talking about Buccaneer - that boat is about 100 years old and has had so much bullshit patchwork done to it that IMO it is finished.

Chris Deiner owned it for decades - maybe since the 50's? He and his then wife lived on it for a time long ago. His son Jonni (pronounced Yonny) inherited it and put a bunch more patchwork into it but I really can't see it ever floating again.
Oh, I thought I remembered Jonni telling me it was somehow “related” to Hawk. I was probably exhausted on an evening after work following bottom sanding, or difficult through hull removal, and he was yammering on like a dreamer about his dreams for the hulk of a giant rotted boat in the giant shed…

I agree - cool idea, but unlikely to ever float again.
 

Jud - s/v Sputnik

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What's moored under the cover off your port side? Looks pretty. I'll be following the solar panel install with interest.
Next step - all panels installed today. 200w on the stern, and 100w port and starboard. Only the big one is hooked up to a controller and battery now (to keep my batteries going, since boat lives half the year on a mooring.)

I installed the two smaller ones today, since I finished installing the new tubing to replace the port/starboard aft lifeline sections, and re-tensioned the remaining lifelines. Installing the two new 100w panels also gave me a chance to be sure the panels don’t interfere with any running rigging (Genoa cars, or furling line), or with a spare/back up 33 lb Danforth anchor that I keep lashed to my starboard aft lifeline by stern pulpit. So far, so good - just have to slightly lower a single block with cam cleat that directs the furling line into the cockpit, so that the line doesn’t chafe on the panel edge.

I’ll put each panel on its own controller - mostly for redundancy. I may later add a flexible panel, but I dislike having visible wires anywhere, so the most I’d do would be, say, a 50w one on top of the dodger so that I could just route the wires below easily, not having to run wires over the deck.

Next thing to figure out/decide on is how to route the two new panel wires below. I’m setting up the two new panels so that they’re easily removable —either prior to a long offshore passage, or when laying up the boat somewhere. I’m not in love with having these smaller panels there, the weight (all heavier than expected), and windage, but they’re super practical…so I’m slowly making peace with the idea. :) It is what it is…

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