Sincere or Scripted?

[badlatitude]

Geraldo risks his job at Fox​

JUST IN: Geraldo risks his job at Fox News and demands that MAGA stops going after President Biden’s family without evidence.

“How low will they go to smear president’s family?” Geraldo asked.

“Put up or shut up,” he tweeted.

Geraldo also went after Republicans for dragging president Biden’s late son’s widow into their rhetoric.

 

[Raz'r]

Geraldo. Performance “art”

 

[Marty Gingras]

He's an enigma.

 

[Raz'r]

He's an enigma.

He’s an enema…

 

[Mrleft8]

He’s an enema…

Takes one to know one....

 

[Olsonist]

I think anything on Fox is as scripted as a WWE bout.

 

[3to1]

just another cunt muddying the waters.

 

[SloopJonB]

I watched his old daytime talk show exactly once - I was home sick.

By the greatest good fortune it was the episode where the Nazi smashed a chair across his face.

He's always been a full of shit showboat.

Thia has to be Fox repositioning itself.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Why are they still wearing masks?
I thought they were the best and brightest
Of sheep perhaps
Sad display
Milk toast Red Guard

 

[3to1]

Why are they still wearing masks?
I thought they were the best and brightest
Of sheep perhaps
Sad display
Milk toast Red Guard

lol, why do you mainline kaka, dolt?

 

[Marty Gingras]

lol, why do you mainline kaka, dolt?

hahahahacoughcoughhahahaha

 

[Marty Gingras]

Why are they still wearing masks?
I thought they were the best and brightest
Of sheep perhaps
Sad display
Milk toast Red Guard

Eh, he's bigoted against LGBT and was invited by Stanford's chapter Federalist Society to talk about "Guns, Covid and Twitter". I don't know his stances on those three topics, but the LGBT-type students were right to talk over him.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Eh, he's bigoted against LGBT and was invited by Stanford's chapter Federalist Society to talk about "Guns, Covid and Twitter". I don't know his stances on those three topics, but the LGBT-type students were right to talk over him.

No they were not
Bigoted?
Please display examples of such behavior
If they wanted to protest outside, fine and appropriate.
They came to listen to a highly accomplished
man speak, maybe they could have learned something.
College and university settings are for exchange of ideas in such situations.
Try and keep up

 

[Marty Gingras]

No they were not

Are you an adherent to Brandeis’, “If there be time to expose through discussion, the falsehoods and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence.”? I usually am. However, there’s no time with these RWNJ assholes.

 

[Fakenews]

Other than tarlov the “liberal” that contribute there are a joke. The worst among them Harold Ford. He basically just agrees with all the other panelists to keep getting a paycheck. Jessica runs rings around the others but she gets a Minute and then the others screech over her. She has Plenty of options don’t know why she stays.

 

[Sisyphus]

Eh, he's bigoted against LGBT and was invited by Stanford's chapter Federalist Society to talk about "Guns, Covid and Twitter". I don't know his stances on those three topics, but the LGBT-type students were right to talk over him.

I think Popehat has a good assessment of this entire fiasco: “This is relentlessly grim. Nobody in this story makes me optimistic about America.” (Link below)

However, I at least partially agree with VVV here (as should be clear from other threads, I am pro LGBT and disagree strongly with VVV on the subject).

If they wanted to protest outside, fine and appropriate.
They came to listen to a highly accomplished
man speak, maybe they could have learned something.

Listening to lawyers who argued and judges who decided cases with which you disagree can be highly informing as to the types of arguments and reasoning (or lack thereof) they use. Know thy enemy. I’m for the students listening to what he had to say and then lighting into him in Q&A and protesting outside or in the room. Shouting down is not the same as protesting, it is censorship by mob rule.

The video posted by VVV, however, lacks a lot of context. The judge was petulant and thin-skinned throughout, he called students appalling idiots and refused to answer legitimate questions. You could argue that the students gave him an out. After quit a bit of back and forth, someone did seem to offer that the students would listen quietly to him until Q&A (around the 26 minute mark), though it’s not clear that would have happened. In any case, he petulantly skipped straight to Q&A, thereby acknowledging that he was, at least from that point forward, there as a provocateur and not to discuss the topics and the students kept engaging. He played the students perfectly into his conservative-victimhood trap. There is only one upward career move for a federal appellate judge and the students talking over him only elevates him in Federalist Society circles, which can be instrumental to that move.

Hating Everyone Everywhere All At Once At Stanford

Don't Expect Free Speech Disputes To Have Heroes

popehat.substack.com

Allegedly full audio from an audience member:

The Full Audio Recording Of Judge Kyle Duncan At Stanford Law

Listen to this recording, ye mighty, and despair—although whether you despair about law students or judges might vary based on your priors.

davidlat.substack.com

Some more context:

Federal Judge Calls Stanford Law Students 'Appalling Idiots' After Refusing To Answer Their Questions - Above the Law

Judge Duncan goes to Stanford, 'looking more like a YouTuber storming the Capitol.'

abovethelaw.com

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[Olsonist]

In related news, if Jews had only met Hitler half-way, WWII could have been prevented.

 

[Sisyphus]

In related news, if Jews had only met Hitler half-way, WWII could have been prevented.

If someone had cracked Hitler on the coconut, WWII could have been prevented, but I don’t advocate that student groups clobber campus speakers with whom they disagree to prevent unknown future events.

BTW, what future event were the students preventing by shouting down the judge’s speech? They don’t know and neither do you. But what they did do is raise this judge‘s profile in conservative circles.

If students think that a speaker needs to be shouted down they can do so. But they should recognize that what they are doing is civil disobedience not free speech, and be willing to live with the consequences. It is not a victory for free speech, in fact it is the opposite.

 

[Olsonist]

If someone had cracked Hitler on the coconut, WWII could have been prevented, but I don’t advocate that student groups clobber campus speakers with whom they disagree to prevent unknown future events.

BTW, what future event were the students preventing by shouting down the judge’s speech? They don’t know and neither do you. But what they did do is raise this judge‘s profile in conservative circles.

If students think that a speaker needs to be shouted down they can do so. But they should recognize that what they are doing is civil disobedience not free speech, and be willing to live with the consequences. It is not a victory for free speech, in fact it is the opposite.

An alternate question would be at what point should these LGBTQ law students speak up? I think that you draw that line differently than they do. But it is a choice and they do have a real dog in the fight and you don't.

So are you supposing, for example, that they sit passively and listen to an intellectual discussion by a jurist of a revival of sodomy laws which had carried previously a death penalty? These are merely ideas, words. It's not as if people are actually murdering gays for sport and want legal cover for it.

 

[Marty Gingras]

If someone had cracked Hitler on the coconut, WWII could have been prevented, but I don’t advocate that student groups clobber campus speakers with whom they disagree to prevent unknown future events.

BTW, what future event were the students preventing by shouting down the judge’s speech? They don’t know and neither do you. But what they did do is raise this judge‘s profile in conservative circles.

If students think that a speaker needs to be shouted down they can do so. But they should recognize that what they are doing is civil disobedience not free speech, and be willing to live with the consequences. It is not a victory for free speech, in fact it is the opposite.

Thanks for the links in your earlier message. The judge was doing politics and shouldn't have. That may not have been his original intent, but that's what he was doing. The kids were also doing politics and they should have. They broke no law, so it wasn't civil disobedience per se. But yeah, I can see V3 being concerned about the lack of decorum ;-)