Smallest boat for somewhat comfy racing-cruising

[silversailor]

Andrew’s 28 does it all. 

 

[Somebody Else]

Any late-model MORC maxi. Won't plane though...

 

[Blue Crab]

Andrew’s 28 does it all. 

Yeah? Will it do 40mph?

 

[Santanasailor]

Yeah? Will it do 40mph?

Probably 70 or more depending on the state and what vehicle is towing the trailer its mounted on  

 

[TUBBY]

For me "smallest" & "comfy cruising" don't belong in the same sentence.

 

[TwoLegged]

1. small
   
2. planing
   
3. comfy cruising
   

Pick any two

 

[Talchotali]

Always look to the past for good answers to modern questions.  Cold molding produces sophisticated results if you have the patience.  If you and your dad can build a boat like that, then why not design and build the design what you want (or a copy) in cold molded plywood/glass?  If the hull shape is spot on, the weight penalty you pay for using traditional materials won't really matter.  Just add more sail (whats above the deck is where newer technologies to have the most edge).  Plus you can fix/modify the thing yourself.  And you'll have a timeless on-off and stories to talk about for the rest of your years.

 

[Kevlar Edge]

Small?

J120, Planing?? 

 

[Glide10]

S2 9.1 It's relatively fast, plenty of headroom and comfortable

 

[Crash]

S2 9.1 It's relatively fast, plenty of headroom and comfortable

Plus mine always made me look like a better sailor than I was!  Great all round boat with lots of strengths and no real weaknesses

 

[Parma]

I wonder- what are the pest variants at the moment for racing\cruising occasionally, new or used.

requirements:

shorter=better

Easy at planing

standing headroom

enclosed toilet with shower

wheel not required

also price is important, i found it quite not smart paying 400k(price of 4 apartments in russia) for sf3300

maybe water ballast? or an option to modify it in(had anybody do that?)

i dont mind gutting and replacing most of insides to FG\carbon sandwich or something like that it for saving weight, if hull shape is right- it worth it i believe(also im curious how many ppl do that and how much weight did they managed to save?)

In your other thread you received a lot of (I thought) good recommendations. 

So what boats have you looked at and why was each discounted ?

Very few people gut boats and then replace the interior. At that point it might be cheaper to get a custom build.

 

[Black Sox]

Smallest boat for somewhat comfy racing-cruising

no shorter in feet than you are years old .

Agreed, with a modification; a foot for every year of your age, plus 10.

 

[SailingTips.Ca]

Andrew’s 28 does it all. 

Yes except there aren't very many of them...three I think...

1. small
   
2. planing
   
3. comfy cruising
   

Pick any two

Or if "comfy cruising" includes boat camping consider a multihull like an F-24, Sprint/Dash 750 etc.

Lots of these around at a reasonable price.

 

[TwoLegged]

Andrew’s 28 does it all. 

Yes except there aren't very many of them...three I think...

it's a huge pity that boat hit the market just as the big financial crash happened killing its sales.

The reviews were full of praise for it, and it sounded like a sweet package.

 

[JL92S]

Isn’t this the same thread as the fast boat with standing headroom? If I remember rightly there were already lots of ideas over there

 

[Bull City]

The OP is even following this topic.

 

[TwoLegged]

28' - 30' for "somewhat comfortable".

When you get to 38' you are into "all the comforts of home" territory.

Only if one's home is one of those frugal dwellings which lacks its own ballroom.

 

[pironiero]

i wonder- why no-one of major manufacturers doesn't go for projects like Natali 850, its 28ft, has standing headroom(190cm at galley and 182 at forward cabin), can plane and its possible to fit shower in it and it can be comfortable, i ve seen several boats completed by men at some russian forum

https://homeverf.yakutia.ru/n850/index.html

they also have daggerboard keel option

 

[pironiero]

The OP is even following this topic.

Ofcourse i am

 

[pironiero]

Only if one's home is one of those frugal dwellings which lacks its own ballroom.

most of you forgot the fact that im russian and im not spoiled those comforts you have at your place =)