Snowflakes and sailing

Sail4beer

Starboard!
We’re waiting for an answer, Dear Teacher!

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LB 15

Cunt
random said:
Easy, I spent time in the VOR threads. I have an acquaintance in the race. 

There are Volvo shills there who did not appreciate my comments.  I said that reverse sheer bow one-design 65s were clearly designed to shovel water over the deck, to generate 'me on grinder covered in white-water' images for the on-board-reporter to record.  I did that after a couple of injuries early in the race.  As compared to the cool IMOCA's that provide great crew protection.  At the time I was +300 is points,

But I woke up one morning to find 278 downvotes from three posters, two of which were socks with no posts.  But that only made me post more comments and the downvoting continued.  At the time there was a limit on each account of allocating -100 a day, but it doesn't take long to get to where I am.

Jack-Sparrow and others continues to manage and shill post the VOR threads and attempt chase off any poster not following the company theme.  And i am still posting there if you care to check.  Recently the downvote limit has been changed to 20 or 25 a day.  I know that because a couple of days ago that's how many I got from him instead of 100.  He comes into the PA threads to downvote en mass.
Down vote. Had to be done.

 

Svanen

Super Anarchist
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Whitby
random said:
Are you saying that in the example I supplied that there are no grounds for Boat C to protest both A and B?
Boat A, fine.

There are no grounds for protesting Boat B. Cf. Case 142.

 

Brass

Super Anarchist
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random said:
142 is about redress.  Not part of the discussion here.
Case 142

The Basic Principle, Sportsmanship and the Rules, states that all competitors, including X’s crew, are expected to enforce the rules, but there is no racing rule that requires X to protest Y in order to be eligible for redress under rule 62.1(b).

Logical Analysis

Proposition A:  The rules require all boats that see another boat break a rule to protest that  boat.

Proposition B:  The rules do NOT require boats that see an another boat break a rule to protest that boat if they seek redress under rule 62.1( b ).

Proposition B is stated in Case 142, an authoritative interpretation of the rules.

Proposition B is true.

Therefore Proposition A is false.

 

LB 15

Cunt
random said:
Pretty funni how people run when confronted by the rules that they clearly do not understand.
Yet you are so content to stick around after you have been shown you have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

Your skin is as thick as your head.

 
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LB 15

Cunt
random said:
You got your anti-truth googles on LB?

This thread has proven that sailing needs some slapping into shape.  Posters here demonstrating their ignorance of the rules.  It's fucking scary on the startline at times when someone driving a +40 footer demands rights where they have absolutely none.

The carriage of this thread is evidence of the problem.
As usual you are yelling at the clouds. There is sometimes some newbie who goes 'deer in the headlights' on the start line or mark rounding and the sport will always have hot heads, but frankly I don't see it as being the huge problem that you make it out to be. But you are not alone. It is usually you beardy Wednesday warrior types that beat the table demanding mandatory rules nights for all members and love to go to the room all puffed up with outrage and anger at any opportunity. Some people who know a shitload more about the rules than you have explained, gently, why you are wrong but you just don't want to listen. 

You are becoming like meli.

 

LB 15

Cunt
random said:
The difference between this sport and a soccer player not clear about the off-side rules, is that sailors can by a large boat,  join a club and appear on the start line without anyone asking if they have the faintest fucking idea about the rules they are expected observe.

It can get very expensive very quickly, not to mention life-threatening.  But we always have people like you LB who make light of it, then go and extract money from people by teaching safety are sea stuff.

YCMTSU
Yep and that is how I am i a perfect position to call bullshit on your paranoia. If you think every time you go racing someone fouls you because they don't know the rules you must be sailing in a pretty low level fleet. Have you considered racing on the weekends instead of just Wednesday night no spin division? 

Happy to spend an  hour with you first to fill in the gaps of your rules knowledge. No charge - we will call it a community service for the people you race against.

 

Sail4beer

Starboard!
random said:
You got your anti-truth googles on LB?

This thread has proven that sailing needs some slapping into shape.  Posters here demonstrating their ignorance of the rules.  It's fucking scary on the startline at times when someone driving a +40 footer demands rights where they have absolutely none.

The carriage of this thread is evidence of the problem.
Protest them. It’s your right and obligation. 

Until then, fuck off! You beat the horse to death. No sense crawling around in its gut casings

 
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