Socialism/capitalism

Not for nothing

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He said the company would be better off if they closed up both European facilities and only operated out of Texas
What he told you or what you relayed to us is very simple, I'm sure it's very complex,
Some things come to mind, would he treat his workers equally, (wellbeing) salary, benefits, and the big thing health care, (which) is "free" in the EU but cost a fortune over here, and what about the quality of the product. Then other costs shipping, Tariffs. Maybe the country in the EU requires him to have Manufactuing in the EU?
Would he use illegals in Texas?
If's it's a family run, I'm sure many of his EU workers are family and friends, how would he feel about firing them? Would he be able to show his face around town?
If money is his big motivation in life, why not have his product made in Mexico, India or China?
When all said and done (as it will for all) does he/you/me want to go to our grave being missed or rich?
 

slug zitski

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All those indi businesses in lib cities stash cash and vote for Democrat pie in the sky unicorn dreams.
St Pete Florida has them in a fuss over rent and calling for rent control
With the new IRS/SS any LLC, traveling sales, little guy trying to make a better living via hard work and personal sacrifice will be tied up in audits and the impersonal, quiet intimidating arrogance of the “civil servant “ . Resolved on the government’s timeline ( more expensive) and you will need to hire a professional CPA to defend yourself, only to be handed a arbitrary ruling that of course you could pay or continue protesting.
Yah

The high cost of housing is a problem

More housing stock is desperately needed...not rent control
 

Steam Flyer

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Yah

The high cost of housing is a problem

More housing stock is desperately needed...not rent control

Yep... where? Bulldoze the woods?
Where are the utilities going to come from? Where is the sewage going to be treated, and what is going to happen to the ground water? etc etc

These are not question that a building contractor has to answer in the US, because we are not as crowded as Europe. We have plenty of empty land (although it's turning out that many of our cities have sustainability issues).

But just building houses that cause floods upstream, let sewage flow freely, suck up aquifers, etc etc, that's not "shitting all over your neighbors" no no no.

It's just a goddam outrage that businesses should ever have to help solve the problems they cause.
 

Ventucky Red

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Yes, because I value time and experiences over money and things. And yeah, I also work my fucking ass off you piece of shit. Your desire for humans to work every moment of every day if their lives simply to survive is part of society's problem. Fuckwhits like you think that the size of your bank account actually means anything. Yet you fail miserably in every aspect of being a decent person.

Nah... got it wrong mate... Fuckwits like me don't like winning cunts like you that are always complaining that the system is stacked against them and then try to hide behind a vail of righteousness..
 

Ventucky Red

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With tax money

Why do you hate entrepreneurship and business so much? Why do you hate people that take the risk, step outside their comfort zone and make something of it?

Sound to me like you have fucked over pretty hard by some business, and now you look at see life through shit-colored glasses.
 

veni vidi vici

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Yah

The high cost of housing is a problem

More housing stock is desperately needed...not rent control
They want all the niceties of modern evolving St Pete but the prices of the old. They skip right over the cost of owning the real estate that they are accustomed to, taxes , insurance regulations all MUST be passed on in order to stay in business.
 

Steam Flyer

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Why do you hate entrepreneurship and business so much? Why do you hate people that take the risk, step outside their comfort zone and make something of it?

Sound to me like you have fucked over pretty hard by some business, and now you look at see life through shit-colored glasses.
Not at all. Sounds to me like you're locked into a bitter spiteful attitude that I must be some kind of failure, because I disagree with your preconceived and ill-informed political opinions. I was rewarded rather highly by the companies I worked for. And my retirement is largely supported by investment, so I am more of a REAL capitalist than you seem to be.

As for fixing the problems caused by incomplete or poorly planned development, yes they are paid for by tax money (most of the time) and a number of private businesses profit highly, and I know because I worked for some companies that did so.

Europe is a lot more crowded than the USA, and has been for a long time. "Sustainability" has been a watchword for them for over a century, whereas it is just now coming onto the horizon for US business, and many consider it a dirty word.
 
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veni vidi vici

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Not at all. Sounds to me like you're locked into a bitter spiteful attitude that I must be some kind of failure, because I disagree with your preconceived and ill-informed political opinions. I was rewarded rather highly by the companies I worked for. And my retirement is largely supported by investment, so I am more of a REAL capitalist than you seem to be.

As for fixing the problems caused by incomplete or poorly planned development, yes they are paid for by tax money and a number of private businesses profit highly, and I know because I worked for some companies that did so.

Europe is a lot more crowded than the USA, and has been for a long time. "Sustainability" has been a watchword for them for over a century, whereas it is just now coming onto the horizon for US business, and many consider it a dirty word.
If sustainability is a high priority why in the hell is your party flooding our country with non English speaking illegal migrants that have little in common with our society?
Massive stress on society and all public services, schools , health care and housing
 

giegs

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jzk

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If sustainability is a high priority why in the hell is your party flooding our country with non English speaking illegal migrants that have little in common with our society?
Massive stress on society and all public services, schools , health care and housing
Open immigration is the only capitalist position. It allows people who live in a place where they are not productive to move to a place where they can be more productive. Everyone wins.
 

Swimsailor

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Nah... got it wrong mate... Fuckwits like me don't like winning cunts like you that are always complaining that the system is stacked against them and then try to hide behind a vail of righteousness..
That's the difference between you and me. The system isn't stacked against me, but I do realize that it is stacked against very large segments of society and I have compassion for those humans. You prefer to marginalize labor. I prefer to protect it.
 

jzk

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That's the difference between you and me. The system isn't stacked against me, but I do realize that it is stacked against very large segments of society and I have compassion for those humans. You prefer to marginalize labor. I prefer to protect it.
In capitalism, the "system" can't be stacked against anyone becuase everyone is able to compete.
 

jzk

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Not at all. Sounds to me like you're locked into a bitter spiteful attitude that I must be some kind of failure, because I disagree with your preconceived and ill-informed political opinions. I was rewarded rather highly by the companies I worked for. And my retirement is largely supported by investment, so I am more of a REAL capitalist than you seem to be.

As for fixing the problems caused by incomplete or poorly planned development, yes they are paid for by tax money (most of the time) and a number of private businesses profit highly, and I know because I worked for some companies that did so.

Europe is a lot more crowded than the USA, and has been for a long time. "Sustainability" has been a watchword for them for over a century, whereas it is just now coming onto the horizon for US business, and many consider it a dirty word.
If your area is too crowded, move to a less crowded area. Nothing makes resources "sustainable" as well as capitalism.
 
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