Socialism/capitalism

Steam Flyer

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Was this not the premise for Hillary Clinton's campaign the deplorables need the smartest, most qualified, best people to run things?
Nope, not even slightly. It was about how deplorables really should choose to get educated and make better choices in life.

And the government could help out, which of course is terrible horrible no-good very-bad, according to many.
 

Ventucky Red

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Nope, not even slightly. It was about how deplorables really should choose to get educated and make better choices in life.

And the government could help out, which of course is terrible horrible no-good very-bad, according to many.

So we should be like Germany, Sweden, and the like?
 

veni vidi vici

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So we should be like Germany, Sweden, and the like?
Great countries if you are part of the ruling class ( politicians)
Or the approved industrial oligarchs
The masses are poor by American standards and trapped in their caste with no motivation or ability to improve their position in society. The populations of the European examples of nirvana are devoid of the human spirit.
 

The Dark Knight

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Great countries if you are part of the ruling class ( politicians)
Or the approved industrial oligarchs
The masses are poor by American standards and trapped in their caste with no motivation or ability to improve their position in society. The populations of the European examples of nirvana are devoid of the human spirit.
You don't get out much do you. You really shouldn't comment on a subject you have no clue about.
 

veni vidi vici

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I doubt that you have any real clue about those countries. I'm betting you jerked off to Swedish & German porn, but that does not give you an insight into those countries
I have been to those dehumanized countries, but more importantly worked for a company here in the US founded by a expat Swed that employed many European escapees and to a man they loved their home countries but much preferred the freedom and life in America. At one Christmas party a few years ago there were 21 flags representing the home country of the employees, manufacturing “blue collar “
 

The Dark Knight

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I have been to those dehumanized countries, but more importantly worked for a company here in the US founded by a expat Swed that employed many European escapees and to a man they loved their home countries but much preferred the freedom and life in America. At one Christmas party a few years ago there were 21 flags representing the home country of the employees, manufacturing “blue collar “
Wow you worked for a company founded by a Swede and had holidays. You know fuck all...

I lived and worked in Sweden for 18 years and I'm a Swedish citizen. I hate the place and their system is probably as equally fucked as the US system, but your description "The masses are poor by American standards and trapped in their caste with no motivation or ability to improve their position in society. The populations of the European examples of nirvana are devoid of the human spirit." is total rubbish.

Sweden is is a great opportunity for those who want more than taking the easy option.
 

jzk

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Nope, not even slightly. It was about how deplorables really should choose to get educated and make better choices in life.

And the government could help out, which of course is terrible horrible no-good very-bad, according to many.
The cool thing about the little bit of capitalism that we have is that now anyone can get an education for free if they want it.
 

veni vidi vici

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The cool thing about the little bit of capitalism that we have is that now anyone can get an education for free if they want it.
Not in the land of equity
You white !
You have to stay back
You have to feel poor
You have to surrender to me ( any government official)
 

slug zitski

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Great countries if you are part of the ruling class ( politicians)
Or the approved industrial oligarchs
The masses are poor by American standards and trapped in their caste with no motivation or ability to improve their position in society. The populations of the European examples of nirvana are devoid of the human spirit.
Yah

Well said

And Europe is a very difficult place for small companies

I’m in Spain this week . Had lunch with a Spanish friend . He runs a family owned company manufacturing seat coverings ... autos, busses, trains, aircraft

Factories in Belgium , Spain and Texas

He said the company would be better off if they closed up both European facilities and only operated out of Texas

In Europe the government , politicians . Are constantly sucking the blood out of the company with tax , social fees, regulation ..

To maintain American society , protect and encourage small business formation
 

slug zitski

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Another thing to ponder is taxes

In Europe tax is very high, Europeans are experts at tax evasion .

I was just informed that the quote I received is only valid if paid in cash

Last night the hotel asked, demanded, cash payment...not credit card

When I’m in the US I never come face to face with tax evasion ..I never pay in cash
 
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Steam Flyer

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Another thing to ponder is taxes

In Europe tax is very high, Europeans are experts at tax evasion . I was just informed that the quote I received is only valid if paid in cash

Last night the hotel asked, demanded, cash payment...not credit card

When I’m in the US I never come face to face with tax evasion ..I never pay in cash

In the US, the tax evasion is being done by the owners of the corporation, not the desk clerk.
 

veni vidi vici

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Another thing to ponder is taxes

In Europe tax is very high, Europeans are experts at tax evasion . I was just informed that the quote I received is only valid if paid in cash

Last night the hotel asked, demanded, cash payment...not credit card

When I’m in the US I never come face to face with tax evasion ..I never pay in cash
All those indi businesses in lib cities stash cash and vote for Democrat pie in the sky unicorn dreams.
St Pete Florida has them in a fuss over rent and calling for rent control
With the new IRS/SS any LLC, traveling sales, little guy trying to make a better living via hard work and personal sacrifice will be tied up in audits and the impersonal, quiet intimidating arrogance of the “civil servant “ . Resolved on the government’s timeline ( more expensive) and you will need to hire a professional CPA to defend yourself, only to be handed a arbitrary ruling that of course you could pay or continue protesting.
 

Steam Flyer

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Yah

Well said

And Europe is a very difficult place for small companies

I’m in Spain this week . Had lunch with a Spanish friend . He runs a family owned company manufacturing seat coverings ... autos, busses, trains, aircraft

Factories in Belgium , Spain and Texas

He said the company would be better off if they closed up both European facilities and only operated out of Texas

In Europe the government , politicians . Are constantly sucking the blood out of the company with tax , social fees, regulation ...
...

That is a slumlord attitude.
Also, a business with factories in 3 countries is not my idea of a "small" business.

Taxes in Europe are a lot higher, but then Europe is a lot more crowded and has a much more complex and feature-dense infrastructure. They have worked hard at preserving wild lands, parks, wildlife, and the environment, and that takes money.

If all you want to do is shit on your neighbors for the sake of making money for yourself, they frown heavily on that.
 

veni vidi vici

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That is a slumlord attitude.
Also, a business with factories in 3 countries is not my idea of a "small" business.

Taxes in Europe are a lot higher, but then Europe is a lot more crowded and has a much more complex and feature-dense infrastructure. They have worked hard at preserving wild lands, parks, wildlife, and the environment, and that takes money.

If all you want to do is shit on your neighbors for the sake of making money for yourself, they frown heavily on that.
What is “ much more complex feature dense infrastructure “?
We have massive Federal parks, state parks and Federal owned land available for the citizens to enjoy.
Nobody is shitting on their neighbors ( whatever that means)
The 3rd of your vague and foggy statements
 
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